ei. to start off i'm a novice in writing gay fiction. as a teenager this is my only way to write something that many of us could relate to. so i really need something to help me out (like tips... etc...) and the tips i got here in this site are good. but now i'm stuck at how to intensify my character and my plot.

a short view on my work would be that it's about gay teenagers falling in love with each other, AIDS stigma and disease. it's romance, and a little bit of erotica.

i need help badly with that... so if you happen to know everything about writing stories... give me any help, i'll appreciate it.

and about my life... well i am passing through the stage where i always fall in love with a straight guy and then i get dumped (or hated). being a teenager i know i'm still young, but the fear of not getting to love and be loved haunts me badly. i want to have a boyfriend, but how? the society here is discriminating and i'm the only gay guy open in our grade level. my batchmates accept me but students from other batches laugh at me. it's so depressing...

and now i guess i want to have someone who'd accept me no matter what. i am also having my suicidal tendencies because something tragic has happened...

how do i get out of this want of killing myself? and how could i find someone i could spend my time with. i'm not really looking for forever, but i guess i'm lucky if (and only if) i find one.

if you could give me advice, i'd really appreciate it. thanks.

For all the advice you ask about your personal life, I'll let other people reply, some give better advice than I can. Welcome to posting! If you want to write, and get help here, you need to get author status. This is no big deal: you just need to ask Joe (JSmith through PM). To have your PM system activated, you have to post five messages. It's not difficult: just give a review of a story you liked, or hang around in the lounge and don't be shy and put in your two cents either on the various topics or in the games section.

Then you may ask people to proofread/ edit what you write. That's in the editors' corner. There are also tons of info available on the site on writing, and you'll find people to help you out also. So, welcome to GA!

To add to that, once you have five posts up, go to the Sneak Peaks forum and post the first section of your story. You should get feedback on the plot, writing, style and other matters in there. A number of authors have used that to help them hone their skills. If you have particular questions about something you've written that you're unhappy with, or not sure about, ask in that forum.

Good luck!

Graeme

Hey Pal,
Those guys above me have some great advice for your story. In fact, I should probably be taking notes on the stuff they told you. I know I could use the extra help...

As for the stuff going on in you life, I thought I would offer my point of view.

The dating thing sucks real bad. I know kind of what you're going though with the straight boys. I've fallen for one many times, but you know, there's just not a lot you can do. I know its really hard to go through, because you're at the age when everyone starts to pair up, and sometimes it feels like you're the only person in the world (or at least your school) whos gay. My early high school years sound very similar to what you're going though, but you just have to keep pushing.

When I was your age (Wow, I sould incredibly old saying that, and I'm only 19...) One of the only things I wanted was to fall in love with a nice boy that would understand me and accept me for who I was. Of course, I wasn't technically "Out" at the time, but I still think people were aware of my situation.

Now, I understand how very hard it may be, but try not to think about dating at this point in time. Focus on making friends, or work on making the friendships you have even stronger. Pick up a new hobby. I started acting at about 13, and its been a major part of my life ever since. You'll be amazed at how the time will fly.

High School relationships rarely last, and in fact, they sometimes lead to headaches that could have been avoided. I'm not saying to give up on love right now, but it WILL come. Usually when you least expect it. And when that happens, the wait will have been worth it. Heck, I'm still waiting, but I haven't given up hope.

As for the depression and suicide, you may want to talk to someone. Whether its some on this site, a school counselor, or maybe just a friend. You don't have to go this alone. Suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problem. You have so much of your life ahead of you, and the possibilities are endless.

Talking with someone you trust is sometimes the only thing you need to get you through the tough times. I know first hand how much it helps.

I hope this advice helps, and hang in there. We've all got your back.

-AM

just wanna put in my 2 cents.

i'm 18 now and just about to graduate.
i have gone through a small private school and realized there's no other openly gay guys except for me.
i know there's others who are gay, but no ones out.
surprisingly to me, no one gives me shit for it.
but i do often feel left out.
i feel like i'm constantly being treated differently by alot of guys who are awkward around me, it sucks yeah.
but, a couple are very kewl and treat me totally "normal".
Back to the problem at hand. I fall for tons of guys, most of them turn out to be straight. Some i think are gay/bi, but they won't admit anything.
So i'm getting no where. I'm just waiting for college i guess.
It really sux to see everyone pair up around me, all my friends have girlfriends/boyfriends, it's annoying, i just want someone.

just remember there's lots of us out there. suicide should not be an option for you.
there's always the next chapter in your life, like a bad nightmare, just wait until it passes.
If you need help, call a hotline, i had these thoughts in middle school, and luckily had someone to talk to about it, it helps.

good luck.

First, welcome to GA. I'll stick to the writing stuff and suggest you follow Graeme and Bondwriter's advice.

1. Post a minimum 5 messages.
2. Activate your PM capability.
3. Take some time and create/add an avatar.
4. Create a signature that represents you.
5. Request from a GA administrator to be given author status.
6. Post a sample of your story in Sneak Peeks.

By having author status, you are allowed in the Writer's Corner. In addition to being able to seek advice from other authors and editors, you will find a treasure trove of "how to's" in previous topics that will probably be relevant. I'm assumng that you're comfortable with the basics of writing - punctuation, sentence stucture, dialogue, spelling, etc.

As far as your complicated life issues, I recommend that you narrow the topics and post them in order of importance on this teen forum. Considering suicide is certainly a big red flag that needs some sort of resolution. Talking this out with peers is a big start. Re-read AM's advice.

Good luck. Look forward to seeing your story.

Jack

ah. i'm kinda busy with proofreading my works... i'm actually in the eleventh chapter. well thanks for posting. i really apreciate all the help. ah...

i don't know how to put avatars... so please help me out., i'm a newbie =).

Can't really help with the writing thing. Still, good luck with your story.

As for the love thing with your life... well, I've only just left school (got one exam left tomorow and thats all) and as far as I know I was the only openly gay person in the school. I know it seems like you'll be alone forever and stuff, especially with everyone around you going off with eachother and then you being left alone. Just remember, you'll find love somewhere. Thats all I can really say...

well, other than Welcome to GA

Hi !
I have found theses tips , they are fun and to the point . http://www.maths.strath.ac.uk/~aas96106/tips.html
About love , it will happen , life does bring you surprises , sometimes too many .
ixyam

You know what I really found odd about that link... Someone can't count. There wree 112 not 101 like it said at the top of the page. Or did I miss something there?

11 Chapters?!?!? Looks like I should be asking YOU for help!!

Everytime I get anywhere... something happens where I don't end up posting.

Well, good luck with everything!!

Hi ! Bardeara ,
There should be 113 : Choose your Tittle carefully .
Good catch anyway !
Iximika

The best writers start out as readers.

My advice is to a new writer is to read a wide variety of authors and styles: not to emulate any particular one of them but to learn how other authors develop characters, relationships between characters, etc.

It is one thing to read for enjoyment. It is quite another to read critically to examine a writer's craft.

Some of the authors in our genre that are particulary good at the craft of writing: Dom Luka, Comicality, Christopher P Lyton, Writes By Himself, EleCivil, Driver 9, Dewey, KIT and Graeme. Read a few stories from each of these authors and you will get a good overview of a variety of styles.

Some of the best authors on the net can be found right here at gayauthors. Other sites that have particulary good authors that you will want to get to know are:

• awesomedude.com
• crvboy.org
• deweywriter.com

Of particular interest is awesomedude. The site and its owner are dedicated to developing writing skills in both new and established authors.

Have fun,


JS



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PS- for extra credit, look up the writer Freethinker at awesomedude and read Canterbury Tales or Courage & Passion

"104. Sometimes, a foreign phrase can add a little 'je ne sais rien.'" <--- lmfao


Jamessavik said it all about the good authors.

As for your personal life problems, nobody likes the idea at first, but a good therapist can work wonders. You should think about finding someone (a professional) to talk to.

Sorry Bardeara ,
113 isn't necessary because of 102 . So instead 113 should be : read the text before posting , else you might eat humble pie
Ixiam

Hey Pichie,

First off I'd like to say that I quite agree with most of the advice given to you above and would encourage you to take it. Here's a little of my own input though.

With regards to intensifying your characters there are a few things I'd recommend. You might try giving the reader a little bit of background information about the characters. Describe the characters' feelings. Clearly show their feelings and why they matter (A simple example of this is the way you described your own feelings in your original post and as a result got feedback, concern, and empathy from others). Make the characters appear "human"; don't present them as one-deminsional embodiments of anger, love, kindness, jealousy etc. Quirks, special talents, fears, and things along that line are good ways of quickly and easily humanizing your characters.

With regards to plot the best advice I could give you is to know where you want to go and have a plan for how to get there. If you want Billy to kiss Tommy for the first time in chapter 7 you'd better set up the first six chapters such that Billy and Tommy's kiss is not only a natural progression but also has a natural opportunity.

As for you personal problems, again I would agree with the others. Patience is key! I'd also like to add that I think it's very important to be okay on your own before you try to be with anyone else. Don't look for someone else to define you or "save" you. You're a person in your own right and you always will be regardless of who your boyfriend is or how great (or lousy) he is.


good luck with everything and take care!
Kevin



P.S. I loved this, dude! Thanks for posting it!

dude, your post just got me thinking.
i totally forgot i wrote two stories when i was 16.

Here's the post i made about them.
click the links in my signature to read them.

it's just funny re-reading them, totally don't remember this, lol.
maybe it's just me, but i'm into my writing.
trying to decide if i should write more.

i graduated yesterday and this guy i like just found out that i was bi like the day before. one of my friends told him, but i didnt care cuz i thought he already knew. i mean ive known him since 6th grade and we're really good friends on the verge of more than friends. he was a bit weird about it but now everything is ok between us. still working on reeling him in though lol!

I have to say I was in your same shoes when it comes to your real life situation. I aggree with Adrian it is difficuilt because at that age everyone is pairing up and that despite the fact that your gay makes you feel like an odd ball or really alone. I will say that the net is a great outlet when looking for love. Now your probably thinking net relationships dont work or arent that good well sometimes online relationships can turn into real life. Now I am not saying go meet everyone you talk to. Theres dangerous people out there and I happened to be one of the lucky ones to get a nice guy. I took a real big risk yes I did but sometimes you have to take risks. How I done it was I met a guy and I talked to him for about two weeks before we decided to meet up. When we did meet up we met at a public location. You always need to carry a cell phone with you and even some pepper spray if you know how to get a hold of some or where to get it. I however didnt know where to get pepper spray but I had my cell phone. We met at the bowling alley and talked for a bit and I dont know something inside of me just told me I was safe. I took a big risk by going on that fact alone by going to a hotel with him. Like I said I was a lucky one he was really sweet to me and very respectful he even asked me permission to hug me! Lol. Anyway on with my story. I've told you that I took big risks but he did aswell being I was sixteen at the time and he was 22. I stayed with him for a week while telling my grandmother I was at a friends house. By the end of the week we knew we loved eachother and I wanted to live with him. This is where I was dumb okay. I wasnt just going to come out to my father I was gonna all out ask him if I could live with the guy. I called and by this time my cell was out of minutes so I had to use the room phone. He wasnt home but the next morning did he show up? Ohhh yes he did and let me tell you it wasnt pretty. Luckily for me he didnt press charges on my boyfriend and well lets say my stubborness did a good thing. Both my family and his family continued to try and break us apart ofcourse my adoptive great grandmother took it better than anyone did and she had more rights over me than my father did legally. So she gave me five hundred dollars I took it and moved up to NC with my boyfriend where at sixteen you can legally be with whom you want and we have been together for two years now and everyones accepted our relationship or atleast tolerates it. His mother was very against it in the beginning but guess what?! We'er best friends now! I am still unsure of my father even though I am eighteen now I still have my fears and havent seen him for two years and dont know if or when I'll ever have the courage to see him again. Anyway I hope my story gives you some hope and well the internet is a bigger outlet than it may seem but also know that it can be dangerous so be cautious but I would give it a try just so long is the guy isnt too far from your age. I would say go on a five year age difference maximum.