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BeaStKid
QUOTE (Trevor @ July 26 2007, 06:01 AM) *
Great Story!

Thanks...although I would have preferred something more...lol...I'm just greedy for praise (or feedback) i guess...

Thanks nevertheless.

The BeaStKid
Bondwriter
QUOTE (The BeaStKid @ July 26 2007, 11:27 AM) *
Thanks...although I would have preferred something more...lol...I'm just greedy for praise (or feedback) i guess...

Aren't we all? wink.gif
BeaStKid
Chapter 7 is up for your reading pleasure....

My sincere apologies for the delay...

BeaStKid
BeaStKid
Chapter 8 is up...
GaryK
Hi BK. As promised I'm all caught up with A&O. It's late here (2:30 AM) so I'll save any extensive comments until later today. Suffice to say for now that A&O held my attention through every single chapter.
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 3 2008, 01:06 PM) *
Hi BK. As promised I'm all caught up with A&O. It's late here (2:30 AM) so I'll save any extensive comments until later today. Suffice to say for now that A&O held my attention through every single chapter.

Thanks a ton, Gary... smile.gif If everything goes well, chapter 9 should be out this Thursday.

Name? Some Fun, More Problems.
GaryK
QUOTE (BeaStKid @ March 3 2008, 03:47 AM) *
Thanks a ton, Gary... smile.gif If everything goes well, chapter 9 should be out this Thursday.

Name? Some Fun, More Problems.

I have to wait until Thursday? Oh well. It's better to wait for a good chapter than rush it and wind up with something substandard.

These will be my only serious comments tonight.

I always admire it when an author takes a risk and experiments with a story that's atypical. The way you've dealt with religion has been one of the things that has held my interest. I'll expound on that later.

As an American I was uncomfortable with how you handled the 9/11 situation. But the more I read this the more I realize it's basically a sci-fi/fantasy story so you can be forgiven for taking some liberties that in a real world might be considered offensive; especially to Americans.

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BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 3 2008, 02:34 PM) *
I have to wait until Thursday? Oh well. It's better to wait for a good chapter than rush it and wind up with something substandard.

These will be my only serious comments tonight.

I always admire it when an author takes a risk and experiments with a story that's atypical. The way you've dealt with religion has been one of the things that has held my interest. I'll expound on that later.

As an American I was uncomfortable with how you handled the 9/11 situation. But the more I read this the more I realize it's basically a sci-fi/fantasy story so you can be forgiven for taking some liberties that in a real world might be considered offensive; especially to Americans.

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Thanks... smile.gif

Actually, I wanted my first story to have some religion in it. And what better way to have a God as the protagonist??? wink.gif

I agree with you on the 9/11 situation. But you would have to keep in mind that these are a bunch of teenagers talking and not a wise, matured man like you. smile.gif

Also, the story is not American. wink.gif

Chapter 9 has been written, but not typed. It has to go through the editing and beta process as well after that...
GaryK
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I agree with you on the 9/11 situation. But you would have to keep in mind that these are a bunch of teenagers talking and not a wise, matured man like you.

Thanks for not leaving out old, smile.gif

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Actually, I wanted my first story to have some religion in it. And what better way to have a God as the protagonist???

There's a lot more to it than that. Again, I'll save my comments until I wake up.

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Also, the story is not American.

I am aware of that. Still, you have al of American fans for whom this is a delicate situation. Keeping it in the realm of sci-fi/fantasy helps a lot.

Now stop replying so I can get some sleep. tongue.gif
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 3 2008, 02:55 PM) *
Thanks for not leaving out old, smile.gif

Awww, you're not old.... You're as old as my dad!!! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 3 2008, 02:55 PM) *
There's a lot more to it than that. Again, I'll save my comments until I wake up.


I am aware of that. Still, you have al of American fans for whom this is a delicate situation. Keeping it in the realm of sci-fi/fantasy helps a lot.

Now stop replying so I can get some sleep. tongue.gif

All righto... See ya when you're refreshed. I'll go for lunch as well.
GaryK
BK, I will send you any further comments via PM. I've already caused enough problems between me and Sacha via my stupidity and I don't want to risk doing the same here. I guess some things, for better or worse, are best left to PM. smile.gif
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 4 2008, 10:46 AM) *
BK, I will send you any further comments via PM. I've already caused enough problems between me and Sacha via my stupidity and I don't want to risk doing the same here. I guess some things, for better or worse, are best left to PM. smile.gif

okies...
GaryK
Upon reflection there really isn't any reason to keep my comments limited to PM.

I want to return to my comment about being an American and being uncomfortable with you writing about 9/11 and the other stuff that's started to surface in Chapter 8.

Sometimes we Americans think the whole world revolves around us. Clearly it does not! A story like A&O reminds me of that very well. Thanks for providing your perspective on the events of the world. It's good to read how people in other countries view and deal with the same issues we Americans are dealing with.

I also am wondering what others think about the American perspective and how BK is helping us deal with not really being as all-important as we tend to think we are.

Also, I don't think I've seen anyone mention this before. What do you all think about this gay relationship, how the gods seem to be alright with it, and how it seems to go against the tenets of most religions?

BTW, the next chapter is overdue! /nudge/nudge/ wink.gif
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 8 2008, 03:34 AM) *
BTW, the next chapter is overdue! /nudge/nudge/ wink.gif

I'll get it out...it's written, but waiting to be typed...Can't find the time...have an exam in another 2 hours and another this Wednesday. Then I have the whole month free...no school.... Yaaay!!
moonwolf
OK you have me hooked up on your story now.... how am I suppossed to write stuff now ??!!

Really good job continue with that and that muse of yours better not go MIA again tongue.gif
BeaStKid
QUOTE (moonwolf @ March 14 2008, 02:57 PM) *
OK you have me hooked up on your story now.... how am I suppossed to write stuff now ??!!

Really good job continue with that and that muse of yours better not go MIA again tongue.gif

Awww...thanks Jason... smile.gif I'm sure you'll be able to write as well as read... smile.gif
GaryK
QUOTE (moonwolf @ March 14 2008, 05:27 AM) *
OK you have me hooked up on your story now.... how am I suppossed to write stuff now ??!!

Really good job continue with that and that muse of yours better not go MIA again tongue.gif

A&O has a way of grabbing hold of you and then you wind up pestering BK to make Beastie work harder to get the next chapter out. smile.gif
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 14 2008, 10:54 PM) *
A&O has a way of grabbing hold of you and then you wind up pestering BK to make Beastie work harder to get the next chapter out. smile.gif

Patience Gary... The first edit has been returned to me and I have sent it for second edit. I must point out that Jan is quite punctual and fast in his job (Thanks to him) otherwise it would be ages to get the whole process done... smile.gif

Thanks Jan...

And another mention needs to go to Bondwriter, who has been helping me with this story right from the start. If it weren't for him, I wouldn't even be writing. Thank you Francois. smile.gif

BeaStKid devilsmiley.gif
GaryK
I shall forever be indebted to Jan (already am actually) and Bondwriter! Thanks guys!
Tiff
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 7 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Upon reflection there really isn't any reason to keep my comments limited to PM.

I want to return to my comment about being an American and being uncomfortable with you writing about 9/11 and the other stuff that's started to surface in Chapter 8.

Sometimes we Americans think the whole world revolves around us. Clearly it does not! A story like A&O reminds me of that very well. Thanks for providing your perspective on the events of the world. It's good to read how people in other countries view and deal with the same issues we Americans are dealing with.

I also am wondering what others think about the American perspective and how BK is helping us deal with not really being as all-important as we tend to think we are.

Also, I don't think I've seen anyone mention this before. What do you all think about this gay relationship, how the gods seem to be alright with it, and how it seems to go against the tenets of most religions?

BTW, the next chapter is overdue! /nudge/nudge/ wink.gif


Gary already convinced me I should read A&O. Actually, convince isn't the right word- I had always been interested in this story, just by reading the summary. Great summary of the story btw. I suck at summaries and I always worry about sounding too cliched. Anyway, I was worried about not getting the whole fantasy thing, but based upon what he said and this last post, I am really eager to read it!

I definitely love fantasy stories that still touch upon current topics and events or real feelings and emotions. Harry potter is a great example of fantasy that is relatable- the whole not fitting in thing or doing the right thing.

Anyway, to add to Gary's comments: Us Americans are very self-involved and even though we have it great compared to many other countries, we are still complaining about something. My Dad showed me an amazing article, and I wish I had it to post! We tend to think of ourselves, but in truth, we are in the center of things, so whatever happens in the US, it does have some sort of effect around the world. We're all apart of this world, and a ripple in the US/N.America, will ripple across the world as well.

I don't know where I was going with this. I tend to ramble when it comes to talking about politics and international relations. biggrin.gif

I'm going to read your story! And keep like a character and plot cheat sheet. I'm actually not that great a reader. I have to concentrate because my brain likes to fall off track. wacko.gif
BeaStKid
QUOTE (Tiff @ March 15 2008, 04:10 AM) *
Gary already convinced me I should read A&O. Actually, convince isn't the right word- I had always been interested in this story, just by reading the summary. Great summary of the story btw. I suck at summaries and I always worry about sounding too cliched. Anyway, I was worried about not getting the whole fantasy thing, but based upon what he said and this last post, I am really eager to read it!

I definitely love fantasy stories that still touch upon current topics and events or real feelings and emotions. Harry potter is a great example of fantasy that is relatable- the whole not fitting in thing or doing the right thing.

Anyway, to add to Gary's comments: Us Americans are very self-involved and even though we have it great compared to many other countries, we are still complaining about something. My Dad showed me an amazing article, and I wish I had it to post! We tend to think of ourselves, but in truth, we are in the center of things, so whatever happens in the US, it does have some sort of effect around the world. We're all apart of this world, and a ripple in the US/N.America, will ripple across the world as well.

I don't know where I was going with this. I tend to ramble when it comes to talking about politics and international relations. biggrin.gif

I agree Tiff. Anything that happens in N.America creates ripples. But then, that is true for every major country in this world and not just for US. smile.gif

QUOTE (Tiff @ March 15 2008, 04:10 AM) *
I'm going to read your story! And keep like a character and plot cheat sheet. I'm actually not that great a reader. I have to concentrate because my brain likes to fall off track. wacko.gif

lol...I'm the same. In fact, I have a character list in front of me every time I sit down to write the next chapter. And, I have a print version of all the chapters as well, to make sure that I do not write something contradictory to a previously mentioned fact and that I'm am consistent with the plot. smile.gif
GaryK
I've been working on one for Tim's Dark Earth trilogy. Oy! Talk about an abundance of characters. And some of them have two names. Their actual name and a code name that's only used in battles. Hehe...even Tim messed up on one character's name. But only one. And it was early on before he decided to change the name of the character.

Working as a beta-reader/editor on so many projects I'm finding I need a character cheat sheet just so I can keep all the characters from all the different stories straight.
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 15 2008, 12:09 PM) *
I've been working on one for Tim's Dark Earth trilogy. Oy! Talk about an abundance of characters. And some of them have two names. Their actual name and a code name that's only used in battles. Hehe...even Tim messed up on one character's name. But only one. And it was early on before he decided to change the name of the character.

Working as a beta-reader/editor on so many projects I'm finding I need a character cheat sheet just so I can keep all the characters from all the different stories straight.

Yeah...I have character sheets for the two round-robins I am a part of and for every story that I write. smile.gif
BeaStKid
Chapter 9 is up for your reading pleasure
Bondwriter
Hmmm. Ryan wasn't given the manual on How To Be a God. It seems he might trigger some discussion and firefighting in Heaven. Great story, I hope 10 is on its way.

The Talon Express? Seems like a reference to something I know of, just can't pinpoint what or whom...
GaryK
QUOTE (BeaStKid @ March 16 2008, 01:59 PM) *
Chapter 9 is up for your reading pleasure

Oh man. Too many stories and never enough time. Well, Dan will have to wait a while cause I wanna read A&O. smile.gif

ADDED:

Talon Express. That's a classic!
Aw, Jessica and John.
Cornelius...spooky.
I hope Ryan's not making a mistake. Will something stop him before he does?
The whole concept of a Communications Centre makes me giggle every time!
Another good chapter BK. Well done. Thanks.
TalonRider
If the Talon Express is anything like The Talon - The Grip of Fear, it's one intense ride.
Tiff
Oh, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this!!! I am so glad I finally started this. You uploaded a new chapter and I was figured, now is a good time. And I couldn't stop.I love how the chapters kinda left off with a cliffhanger and they weren't too long, so I could read right through. Great continuity.

There are definitely some funny moments and I love that you made such an unrealistic thing seem so real. My favorite moment is when God says 'Adios.' That had my cracking up for awhile.

John and Jessica were definitely sweet. Mark and Scott were a surprise. I wasn't expecting that whatsoever.

Cornelius seems a little freaky, which is expected, since something shady is definitely going down.

I wonder how far Ryan will take this power of his and what will happen in the future, considering there seem to be other people or figures manipulating him.

We shall see.

Anyway, love it! So glad I finally started reading this!
GaryK
I am so happy you gave AaO a chance, Tiff. I knew you'd like it and I'm glad you did. Did you see all the layers of complexity I told you about?

/me does a happy dance...
Tiff
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 16 2008, 07:14 PM) *
I am so happy you gave AaO a chance, Tiff. I knew you'd like it and I'm glad you did. Did you see all the layers of complexity I told you about?

/me does a happy dance...

Well after all the good things you mentioned about it, I had to at least give it a chance! It's an amazing story, period.

I love that he made the inner workings of heaven seem so government-like. Really amped up the humor aspect.

I like that he included nerves between straight couples as well, because then he's writing a bit for everyone.

I think my favorite part is how God does in fact look out for the gay couple; when they learn that Ryan will poison himself with that chemical, they break the bottles before he has a chance.

Oh, and the WTC, 9/11 stuff----seriously, this story has everything in it. A great read. Now Alpha and Omega and Mike and Winston are my eFiction favs!
BeaStKid
QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 04:34 AM) *
Oh, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this!!! I am so glad I finally started this. You uploaded a new chapter and I was figured, now is a good time. And I couldn't stop.I love how the chapters kinda left off with a cliffhanger and they weren't too long, so I could read right through. Great continuity.

blink.gif Cliffhanger?? Me?? tongue.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 04:34 AM) *
There are definitely some funny moments and I love that you made such an unrealistic thing seem so real. My favorite moment is when God says 'Adios.' That had my cracking up for awhile.

That had me cracking as well. Human traits rub off on Father when He comes to visit the Eath.. wink.gif

QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 04:34 AM) *
John and Jessica were definitely sweet. Mark and Scott were a surprise. I wasn't expecting that whatsoever.

Thanks. Yes, Mark and Scott were a surprise to me as well. I was writing when they sprang up in my head and announced that they were a couple!! wacko.gif

QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 04:34 AM) *
Cornelius seems a little freaky, which is expected, since something shady is definitely going down.

whistle.gif He's my favourite character, for obvious reasons *cough* Cornelius James *cough*

QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 04:34 AM) *
I wonder how far Ryan will take this power of his and what will happen in the future, considering there seem to be other people or figures manipulating him.

We shall see.

Anyway, love it! So glad I finally started reading this!

Good point. I was hoping someone would catch it.. smile.gif

Thanks for reading it as well. And I am glad that you liked it. smile.gif


QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 08:21 AM) *
Well after all the good things you mentioned about it, I had to at least give it a chance! It's an amazing story, period.

I love that he made the inner workings of heaven seem so government-like. Really amped up the humor aspect.

I like that he included nerves between straight couples as well, because then he's writing a bit for everyone.

I think my favorite part is how God does in fact look out for the gay couple; when they learn that Ryan will poison himself with that chemical, they break the bottles before he has a chance.

Yes, as I mentioned. Heaven is almost like any nation-entity... smile.gif

Yeah...here...

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At that moment, the moon came out from behind the clouds and bathed the room with moonlight, which until that moment was dark. It was as though God himself was blessing this couple and indeed, He was. With each passing moment, the moonlight grew stronger and washed upon the two beautiful boys locked in an embrace, kissing each other. It was a heavenly moment; a moment signifying the merging of two souls into one; a moment when the two boys looked into each other’s eyes and pledged their love for each other without uttering a single word.


QUOTE ( @ March 17 2008, 08:21 AM) *
Oh, and the WTC, 9/11 stuff----seriously, this story has everything in it. A great read. Now Alpha and Omega and Mike and Winston are my eFiction favs!

Wow! Thanks so much! Getting this type of a feedback for my first online story is simply an honour!! Thank you so much!! smile.gif
GaryK
Where's my thanks for being such a good recruiter?
BeaStKid
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 17 2008, 10:45 PM) *
Where's my thanks for being such a good recruiter?

Thank you, dear... smile.gif
GaryK
QUOTE (BeaStKid @ March 17 2008, 02:02 PM) *
Thank you, dear... smile.gif


Aw, thank you!
Tiff
I'll add a thanks as well! Without you, I probably would have considered this too hard for me to read and not even have bothered. So thanks! biggrin.gif I thoroughly enjoyed reading this and look forward to more.
GaryK
QUOTE (Tiff @ March 17 2008, 04:21 PM) *
I'll add a thanks as well! Without you, I probably would have considered this too hard for me to read and not even have bothered. So thanks! biggrin.gif I thoroughly enjoyed reading this and look forward to more.

I've done my good deed for the day. Now I can return to being my usual naughty self. laugh.gif
Andy2008
just finish reading your story ....Very nice
Well character and plot ...Some scene kinda romantic . I like a part when jason look Ryan when he was sleping and then he woke up ...they hug and kiss each other ...Very sweet !!!

Keep going !!!!!!!!!!!!
BeaStKid
QUOTE (andyxxx2006 @ March 18 2008, 09:40 AM) *
just finish reading your story ....Very nice
Well character and plot ...Some scene kinda romantic . I like a part when jason look Ryan when he was sleping and then he woke up ...they hug and kiss each other ...Very sweet !!!

Keep going !!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Andy. That is one of my favourite parts as well. smile.gif
RJ
BeaStKid gets better with every chapter!

I don't believe Ryan was at the point of no return. I believe there would be an intervention, and Ryan would be visiting Heaven for a while. And that is because I don't think the other gods respect him as another god yet. They still think he's seventeen years old; thus, he still needs guidance.

Anyway, it's funny (for lack of a better word) reading the reaction of an American to BSK's view of the 9/11 tragedy. I, not being American, didn't have any reaction to it at all, and I was surprised someone did when I read this thread.

Just my thoughts.


Rad smile.gif
GaryK
QUOTE (Rad Steven @ March 23 2008, 11:45 AM) *
BeaStKid gets better with every chapter!

Agreed. He's a great story teller.

QUOTE (Rad Steven @ March 23 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Anyway, it's funny (for lack of a better word) reading the reaction of an American to BSK's view of the 9/11 tragedy. I, not being American, didn't have any reaction to it at all, and I was surprised someone did when I read this thread.

I guess it's one of those things you need to have lived through. Much like the Japanese invasion of the Phillipines during WW2. Seeing the effects of what happened on 9/11 reversed as they were, made the impact of what really happened even worse. It's a nice fantasy. I wish it could really happen. But it's so far from reality as to be insulting to many Americans. It's not even close to being funny from my point of view. This is the only part of the story I have a problem with. Maybe it's the casual way in which it's dealt with. Nevertheless, AaO remains one of my favorite stories as is evidenced by my signature, and I'm not the least bit upset with BK for writing it because clearly, and naturally, he has a vastly different outlook on what happened on that fateful day. To me the cultural differences we get to witness on GA, and all over the internet, are part of what makes the whole experience worthwhile.
old bob
QUOTE (GaryInMiami @ March 23 2008, 05:15 PM) *
To me the cultural differences we get to witness on GA, and all over the internet, are part of what makes the whole experience worthwhile.

Wow worshippy.gif
I agree 100 % with that.
No need to go so far as between India and USA tongue.gif .The cultural differences between USA and EU for instance, even when we belong to the same Western world, are sometimes immense : different sense of humor, different ways to consider the religious matters, different political feelings.
On the other side, the only real difference between GA members are the time zones biggrin.gif.
For me, reading the stories of authors all around the world, following all the topics with sometimes so different opinions, and still feeling that we have the same attitudes about ethical principles, about being gay and accept it, always trying to be friendly and often helpful, makes this site unique worshippy.gif .
Thanks to the founder of GA, thanks to all the members who post and blog, thanks to the authors.
Old bob
(I know this has nothing to do with Alpha and Omega, but I'm grateful to BSK for the opportunity he gave me to post here my feelings. Let the moderators put my post somewhere else tongue.gif )
BeaStKid
QUOTE (Rad Steven @ March 23 2008, 09:15 PM) *
BeaStKid gets better with every chapter!

I don't believe Ryan was at the point of no return. I believe there would be an intervention, and Ryan would be visiting Heaven for a while. And that is because I don't think the other gods respect him as another god yet. They still think he's seventeen years old; thus, he still needs guidance.

Anyway, it's funny (for lack of a better word) reading the reaction of an American to BSK's view of the 9/11 tragedy. I, not being American, didn't have any reaction to it at all, and I was surprised someone did when I read this thread.

Just my thoughts.


Rad smile.gif

Thanks Rad... smile.gif Let's see if your speculation turns out to be true or not? wink.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE (old bob @ March 23 2008, 11:03 PM) *
Wow worshippy.gif
I agree 100 % with that.
No need to go so far as between India and USA tongue.gif .The cultural differences between USA and EU for instance, even when we belong to the same Western world, are sometimes immense : different sense of humor, different ways to consider the religious matters, different political feelings.
On the other side, the only real difference between GA members are the time zones biggrin.gif.
For me, reading the stories of authors all around the world, following all the topics with sometimes so different opinions, and still feeling that we have the same attitudes about ethical principles, about being gay and accept it, always trying to be friendly and often helpful, makes this site unique worshippy.gif .
Thanks to the founder of GA, thanks to all the members who post and blog, thanks to the authors.
Old bob
(I know this has nothing to do with Alpha and Omega, but I'm grateful to BSK for the opportunity he gave me to post here my feelings. Let the moderators put my post somewhere else tongue.gif )

Agrees wholeheartedly!

I don't know how many times I have said this, but I am so grateful to everyone who've made this site what it is today...
BeaStKid
Chapter 10 is up for your reading pleasure.
BeaStKid
Chapter 11 is up for your reading pleasure. smile.gif
BeaStKid
Chapter 12 is up for your reading pleasure.

Just three more chapters to go... smile.gif

BeaStKid devilsmiley.gif
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