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Underneath this Big O'le Sky -Part 4 by Viv






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Graeme
Viv's done another masterful tale of personal interaction. Complex relationships seem to be a forte of hers.

Will is finally beginning to notice Caty -- only to completely mess everything up by misreading the situation between Caty and Tracey. I loved Caty's comment about hitting him if he doesn't appreciate her in her new dress biggrin.gif

Casey is struggling to come to terms with his relationship with Tracey, and not doing a good job of it. The ending of the story was so poignant, I almost cried. The only saving grace is that there is still hope -- maybe all that Casey needs is more time.

I was surprised and proud of the way Tracey stood up to his father. His announcement took me by surprise, as did Caty's response, or, more accurately, non-response. Tracey had to have wondered what was going through her head, but she just showed her acceptance.

It doesn't come out in this story, but in context of the earlier parts it was interesting that both Caty and Will understand about Casey -- possibly even before Casey realised he was gay. It leads me to wonder about Paulette -- does she also understand her son?

If the misunderstandings that are going on at the moment don't resolve themselves quickly, there's a lot of potential for pain in the future. I'm personally keeping my fingers cross.

My favourite section of the story, though was the following. It had me chuckling: laugh.gif

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“What ya thinkin’ about?” Will probed not at all subtly.

“Was just wondering if he’s any better at building fences than he is at riding horses,” Casey laughed.

“He can’t ride?” Will asked disbelievingly. “What kind of guy can’t ride?” he asked to one in particular.

“Just never had,” Casey clarified. “I taught him,” the pride much more evident in his voice than he wanted it to be.

“That’s just…,” Will tried, but couldn’t find the words.

“I know, right?” Casey agreed.

Will just didn’t know how someone could get to be Tracey’s age and never have ridden a horse. He knew that not everyone had lived the same life he had, or Casey had, but there were just some things that a man knew how to do, and it made him wonder what kind of life Tracey had growing up. Not that Tracey wasn’t a man, he certainly was, and everyone on Kingsman Bluff seemed to know it, including Caty.

Thanks, Viv! Another wonderful glimpse into life on Kingsman Bluff. wub.gif
Drewbie
Yay, can't wait for more.

Casey is still confused or just doesn't want to admit it. like Graeme says it could get worse hope it doesn't

btw even in part 4 it says part 3.
Tob
You can't stop here! That's just not fair! But I wub.gif it anyway. I hope the next anthology is soon biggrin.gif

Hugs
Tobey
Bardeara
Wonderful story Vivian, I feel this is the best chapter (part) yet. I won't comment on the Part 3 being stated at the beginning of the story rather then Part 4 as it should, because someone already commented on that. biggrin.gif

Graeme review said it best, and I have to agree with it 100%.

Can't wait for the next one and great job.
C James
Graeme said basically everything I was thinking, only he said it both better and sooner. smile.gif

I REALLY loved the part about astonishment at not being able to ride. That's a great exposition of mindset, and what is normal for their world.
wildone
Viv,

It still amazes me that even though it has been about 3 or 4 months since the last part, what a lasting impression that your characters leave on me. After the first paragraph I was immediately taken back to where part 3 left off.

I found it interesting that this chapter really focused on everyone not really knowing how to communicate. From Caty not being able to tell Will her true feelings, to Will not being able to tell Tracey or Casey about his feeling of developing jealousy toward Tracey and Katy. I guess that kudos do have to go to Casey at the end for showing how he really feels about Tracey though biggrin.gif .

I'm really beginning to like Tracey. He is slowly beginning to trust everyone up on Kingmans Bluff. Things like taking on his Dad in front of Katy, finally sitting on the rocking chair, going out and starting on the fence by himself. But most of all for giving Casey some room to deal with his feelings and understanding that he may not be in the same place as himself in accepting his sexuality.

Great chapter Viv worshippy.gif , but it pains me to wait for the continuation. But I will be a trooper and persevere the wait laugh.gif .

Steve cool.gif
jkeeling
Man o Man..... Such a great story. Just really scary if I have to wait for the next anthology to read more. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif



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CarlHoliday
I really enjoyed reading this. I generally avoid Westerns, even ones portraying a modern ranch, but Viv you've got me. It's a shame I'm going to have to wait three months to find out how all of this turns out.

Thanks for the great story Viv! biggrin.gif


Carl cap.gif
Graeme
QUOTE (CarlHoliday @ January 1 2008, 08:44 AM) *
I really enjoyed reading this. I generally avoid Westerns, even ones portraying a modern ranch, but Viv you've got me. It's a shame I'm going to have to wait three months to find out how all of this turns out.

What makes you think it's going to be resolved by the next anthology? The way Viv is writing, I'm expecting this story to go for at least another year. The "ghosts" theme, for example, would probably be about ghosts from someone's past (Tracey's dad make a re-appearance, maybe?).
Benji
QUOTE (Graeme @ December 31 2007, 06:08 PM) *
What makes you think it's going to be resolved by the next anthology? The way Viv is writing, I'm expecting this story to go for at least another year. The "ghosts" theme, for example, would probably be about ghosts from someone's past (Tracey's dad make a re-appearance, maybe?).



cool.gif ...........I rather liked this chapter....Will can't figure out how someone of Traceys age doesn't know how to ride a horse...but can't seem to figure out he's jealous of a gay boy tongue.gif
colinian
OK, shout as LOUD as you can:

Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!
Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5! Chapter 5!

Viv, are you listening? Hello, hello, Viv??

Colin cool.gif
viv
I think that's gonna be up to CJ... cause there's this new rule... and I don't want to be a rulebreaker! ohmy.gif But either way it'll get finished, I promise... and I can't wait! ohmy.gif But I know what happens so... tongue.gif
Tob
The rule MUST stay in place. That way we don't have to wait for the next anthology to get the next chapter blush1.gif whistle.gif

Tob
MikeL
QUOTE (viv @ December 31 2007, 06:08 PM) *
I think that's gonna be up to CJ... cause there's this new rule... and I don't want to be a rulebreaker! ohmy.gif But either way it'll get finished, I promise... and I can't wait! ohmy.gif But I know what happens so... tongue.gif

QUOTE (Tob @ January 2 2008, 11:17 AM) *
The rule MUST stay in place. That way we don't have to wait for the next anthology to get the next chapter blush1.gif whistle.gif
Tob

Aren't rules meant to be broken? What good are rules if everyone obeys them?

I'm with Colin. Waiting for the next installment on a story as good as this is pure torture.
viv
It's fine with me either way... tis up to the goat biggrin.gif

CJ?
Meeko
QUOTE (viv @ January 5 2008, 07:49 PM) *
It's fine with me either way... tis up to the goat biggrin.gif

CJ?



how about LC answers instead? Close enough right? I say NOW!!!!!!!! =P
C James
QUOTE (viv @ January 5 2008, 10:49 PM) *
It's fine with me either way... tis up to the goat biggrin.gif

CJ?


Hi Viv!

Okay, I think I should start by mentioning the difference between a chapter, and a sequel. A sequel does not require the reader to read the prior work to read the sequel. In other words, a sequel can be read as a separate story. A chapter can't.

A chapter is NOT okay in the anthology, and it never has been, becuase the anthology is, as it has always been, a collection of short stories (every submission guideline we have ever had has specified "short stories"). Anthologies, by definition, are not collections of chapters, and the GA anthology won't be accepting any chapters for that reason. It would just kill off the format we have, as well as making things hard on the readers. So, that's something I had to draw the line at, and it won't be moving on my watch.

However, Viv's UTBOS hasn't been chapters so far; each has worked as a stand alone story. True, you get a better feel for it if you read the prior ones, but, that's true of most any sequel, and sequels are okay. smile.gif

The only new rule, really, is the prohibition on using numbered titles like UTBOS 1, 2, 3, etc, BUT, there is an exception for people who were already doing so for the title they were using. So, UTBOS 5 is fine, so long as it, like the prior ones, works as a free standing story. Just don't call it a chapter. tongue.gif

CJ smile.gif

Edit to add: The rule against numbered titles went into effect a few months ago, and as Viv was the only one doing numbered titles at that time, only UTBOS has that exception. For example, if I wanted to follow up by winter entry of "Three for Jake" with Three for Jake 2, I couldn't. smile.gif Well, I could, but not in the anthology. smile.gif
Tob
mad.gif Now we have to wait till spring anthology to get the next chapter sequel

Tob
YaP
QUOTE (Tob @ January 6 2008, 08:27 PM) *
mad.gif Now we have to wait till spring anthology to get the next chapter sequel

Tob


yes, it seems we have to ... but as experienced readers we are used to waiting for the next post of a good story, aren't we ;-)

ViV: i have been looking forward to the next postings of this story since the first chapter. I really like it :-) - even though i actually think its not a "short story" (and shouldnt it be short stories for the anthology ?). Its definitly worth being posted as a novel somewhere, with more frequent updates ;-)
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (Graeme @ December 29 2007, 06:07 AM) *
Viv's done another masterful tale of personal interaction. Complex relationships seem to be a forte of hers.

Will is finally beginning to notice Caty -- only to completely mess everything up by misreading the situation between Caty and Tracey. I loved Caty's comment about hitting him if he doesn't appreciate her in her new dress biggrin.gif

Casey is struggling to come to terms with his relationship with Tracey, and not doing a good job of it. The ending of the story was so poignant, I almost cried. The only saving grace is that there is still hope -- maybe all that Casey needs is more time.

I was surprised and proud of the way Tracey stood up to his father. His announcement took me by surprise, as did Caty's response, or, more accurately, non-response. Tracey had to have wondered what was going through her head, but she just showed her acceptance.

It doesn't come out in this story, but in context of the earlier parts it was interesting that both Caty and Will understand about Casey -- possibly even before Casey realised he was gay. It leads me to wonder about Paulette -- does she also understand her son?

If the misunderstandings that are going on at the moment don't resolve themselves quickly, there's a lot of potential for pain in the future. I'm personally keeping my fingers cross.

My favourite section of the story, though was the following. It had me chuckling: laugh.gif


Thanks, Viv! Another wonderful glimpse into life on Kingsman Bluff. wub.gif

Well said, Graeme!

QUOTE (C James @ December 29 2007, 05:04 PM) *
I REALLY loved the part about astonishment at not being able to ride. That's a great exposition of mindset, and what is normal for their world.

Good point, CJ!

I have to say I was once again struck by how beautiful and powerfully written this story is! biggrin.gif

I can't wait to read the next installment! Fortunately, I'm a bit behind on my reading so I can do and do that now biggrin.gif

-Kevin read.gif
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