Can we get some fair reporting here please?

When the Democrats and Independents voted for McCain (the GOP Nominee), and they selected him to run for us, they called it bipartisan.

When Republicans voted for Hillary, the media immediately screamed it was "perverting the democratic process".

Excuse me?

why is it that anything good for Democrats is "normal" and anything bad for Democrats is "perverting" the process?

I want some honest reporting instead of constant 5th column propaganda from the so-called "main stream" media. All the "main stream media" is is the communication wing of the Democrat party.

Do we honestly believe these people that voted for McCain in the primaries are going to not vote for Ho-Bama in the general?

There's no way they'll be voting for Old man Mc Cain in November...the media pumped him up and gave him a Christ like persona until he was the nominee, then they went after him like a tabloid magazine at the supermarket goes after Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan. The media is so biased that they can't even pretend not to be on the side of the democrats anymore. It's disgusting, but look at it this way....do we really want McCain anyway??

I do. McCain has had a good following among independents all along. I think a lot of them will vote for him in the fall. In states with primaries or caucuses where independents could choose which party's primary to vote in, it helped McCain if more of them chose Republican, and it helped Obama if more of them chose Democrat. In a McCain-Clinton race, McCain will get a large boost from independents. With just about anybody that was running other than McCain against Obama, Obama gets a big independent advantage. With a McCain-Obama race, nobody knows how the independent vote will split.

As for Republicans voting in the Democrat race or vice versa in the places where they could do that, it's probably not one-size-fits-all. I would expect that voting for the one you think with the worse chance in the fall would be a motive for a lot of them. That doesn't mean they guessed right, and may be outsmarting themselves. I've seen coherent, reasoned arguments of why Obama or Clinton or McCain is unelectable. They can't all be right.

I can imagine that McCain will get some Democrat votes in the fall. There are enough Democrats that don't care for Obama or Clinton either one, and some supporters of each who don't care for the other one, that McCain will pick up some votes.

There are a bunch of Republicans who hate McCain, but they'll probably stay home or vote Libertarian rather than voting for either Democrat, or they'll hold their noses and vote for McCain to vote against Hillary. Maybe some Republicans don't want us to stay in Iraq for another 100 years or fear that even McCain will appoint more justices like Scalia, and they'll vote for a Democrat. Probably some Republicans hope that McCain will lose in the fall because they believe it would shift the GOP the wrong way, and they'd rather have a right-wing minority party than a more moderate one that is in power.

McCain, even now running alone, can't get a majority of the GOP to vote for him. the GOP fundraising is in the toilet.
Everytime a Republican opens his mouth at all, John McCain tells them to shut up, they are a racist for even mentioning Senator B. Huessien Obama's name.

There is more GOP base then there is independents that will vote for him. He needs to remember that some time.

That's because John McCain isn't a real conservative...not fiscally, and not in the respect of limited government. Yes, he's a war hero, but that doesn't qualify someone to be president. If he really wants to swing voters his way, he ought to offer more tax cuts across the board, deep spending cuts, and most importantly, he should tell the 8000 pound elephant in the room (fundamental christians) to get out. James Dobson and his supporters ought to make good on their promise to stay home, because the republican party would be a lot less disgusting and way better off without them.

Sorry for my outburst

Well, who is one--in practice and not just in rhetoric? Certainly not Bush. Ron Paul is about as close as any candidate has been in a long time, and it's not "the base" who are voting for him.



He use to favor a more across-the-board approach to tax cuts, and opposed the cuts mostly for just the top; but now he supports the extension of the Bush cuts instead.

And deep spending cuts are not an option. He wants us in Iraq for another 100 years, so that $12 billion a month is off the table. But he does oppose funding a study of grizzly bears in Montana, so if he cuts that, there is enough money for another 10 minutes of that 100 years.



He's done a better job of that than any other Republican leader of national stature. And of course he's backed away from that stand in his effort to get the nomination. He and Falwell kissed and made up before the latter's death.

Here's a music video you might enjoy:

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And the Fox people any better? No. I do agree there should be fair reporting. yet both of the sides aren't doing it.


I'd rather have McCain then Obama. Some of the things McCain I like, some like I mention below I don't.

With Obama, some said on this forum, he can talk really well about what he's going to do, but will he be able to do it, resonable, handel foreign talks etc?

I would never vote for Huckabee, wouldn't want another religious nut in the white house. Conservative side is more where the religious nuts come in (as of now), maybe some might vote for for the right, if they didn't come into play, but now most of the right including McCain cater to them. when he went to Felwells college, that disappointed me, it meant for them it validates there cause etc.

I'm sorry but really, Converstives least the ones in office cannot say the party is for small government, it got enlarged with Bush, the war is costing us a lot of money. Second thing with McCain I definitely do not like hearing if we have to spend 100 years in Iraq. One thing definitely true with he dems. is they can never really agree or root just for one person to win.

And maybe McCain will help bring back the party. maybe not with the Conservative side, but bring back other values?

Added somethings so I didn't have to post again, edit some of it.

Funny you should say a thing like that when McCain one Florida, a closed primary state... Then again, considering his major competitor was that snake Romney, I think we should be glad McCain won.



Well, that's the media for you. Frankly if anyone is subverting the democratic process its the democrats themselves. Superdelegates exist for no other purpose than to subvert the will of the voters. Thanks to that gasbag Howard Dean, two states have been completely disenfranchised from the party, and people don't know whether even the popular vote in those states should be counted. Even if they were to be counted there's talk of unfairness in doing that because of previous agreements not to campaign there. The "Democratic" party has proven itself entirely undemocratic. I hope their convention turns out to be the total disaster its shaping up to be. Especially since Florida and Michigan will be sending their delegates whether they are welcome or not and stirring up a storm.



Stupid party loyalties.



Amen to that!



Thats yet to be seen. Obama's charisma has the potential to sweep up the nation with hope, thats a value that should not be discounted. For me personally, though... I can't see republicans taking back congress in the next election, and the thought of a democratic president and a democratic congress working together to spend everything i own on projects bound to fail... well, that's not appealing in the least. Add to that the fact that the President's greatest authority lie in foreign policy, not domestic, and consider that McCain's greatest experience and aptitude is with foreign policy, something Obama has, so far as I know, NO experience with... I'm in all likelihood going to vote for McCain.

I think McCain is much more capable to the task of running the country than either Hillary or Obama... I just wish McCain could show more enthusiasm than a potato. He's a very respectable man, but respect does not always translate into inspiration... and from all I've seen of McCain he's as inspiring as... a potato.

And I don't mean that to knock him, or potatoes... the advent of potato farming provided food for millions of Europeans. In fact, the potato does not get near the credit it deserves from most people. It is simple, and generally speaking, a very functional food. Similarly, I think McCain would be a very functional president... but I can't see him inspiring the adoration of the masses, or motivating them to any particular end.

I was badly disappointed in McCain when he started making peace overtures to the nutty wing of the party. However, I can see why he did it... He was in a weak position when they were in a position of strength, and courting them a little then has made his run for election possible now. He had to court them when he did or basically find himself exiled from the party. The tables have turned in his favor and McCain may be old but he'll never forget the way they maligned him in 2000 and the way they treated him afterward. We don't have to worry about McCain getting in bed with the nutties, he's more likely to kick them in the nuts than suck 'em.

He actually is very conservative in a fiscal sense. The Senator has not made friends with some of his colleagues in Congress because of his (sometimes undiplomatic) whistleblowing of outrageous earmarks and little amendments attached to bills to fund pet projects.

His comments yesterday in LA concerning the sub-prime mortgage mess were bold. I also appreciated his thoughts concerning greenhouse gas emissions/global warming. He addressed the need for the U.S. to mend it's international image.

These are my desires for the next five months: let the Democrats play out their death wish - Hillary's scorched earth attitude and the DNC's delegate folly (Michigan, Florida, and the Super-doopers) while Senator McCain solidifies the GOP loyal base and successfully raises funds. Then, when Senator Obama succeeds, the two candidates - John and Barack - can intelligently debate the issues without the ass-biting because the Clinton political machine will have been dismantled. The American public who are enlightened will have an opportunity to listen to different philosophies and be able to make judgement.

For the solid conservative Republican, this is not the ideal scenerio. However, a different outcome should have been addressed and choreographed a year ago. Huck, Mitt and Rudy are distant memories. Perhaps another Reaganesque star-in-the-making will be found as a VP running-mate. I suspect Senator McCain will, at some point, go on record and state he will only serve one term to ease criticism of his age.

Jack