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AFriendlyFace
Good observations you guys!

LOL, and Tim I don't think Aaron and the crew are ready for any major cliffys just yet. On the other hand I like Steph's idea of a fashion cliffhanger.

Ronnie: "Which do you want, Aaron, the platinum blond highlights or the dark blond highlights?"

Aaron doing Cavemanese: "uhh, oghh, umm"


tongue.gif cap.gif


By the way, before I forgot the name of chapter four is: The Eyes Have It ph34r.gif
Tiff
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 6 2008, 10:26 PM) *
Good observations you guys!

LOL, and Tim I don't think Aaron and the crew are ready for any major cliffys just yet. On the other hand I like Steph's idea of a fashion cliffhanger.

Ronnie: "Which do you want, Aaron, the platinum blond highlights or the dark blond highlights?"

Aaron doing Cavemanese: "uhh, oghh, umm"


tongue.gif cap.gif


By the way, before I forgot the name of chapter four is: The Eyes Have It ph34r.gif

I like your idea of a cliffhanger, poor Aaron getting all flustered as usual.

I like the name of the next chapter. I bet it has something to do with eyes and a lot of makeup? Like eyeliner, eyeshadow, and mascara! laugh.gif

Btw, I'm curious; how many chapters are there in total?
C James
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 6 2008, 04:04 AM) *
Well, all in all it's pretty accurate. In fact to be honest quite a bit of it is based on my own experiences, the experiences of people I know, the things I've heard about it, or simply the things I can readily imagine happening.

Of course there's creative license, but I am trying my best to conceptualize realistic gay characters based on people and personalities that I know, and put them into an environment that is for the most part accurate, and then sort of 'tell the story' of what might happen with these types in these environments.

I'll also say that really 'club culture' depends very much on your own experience of it. Just like gay culture in general or any other gathering of people. You can have a very tame, conservative experience of gay culture OR you can have a very wild experience. It largely depends on where you go, who you're with, and what you do.

Here's a good example, a friend of mine is very religious, very conservative about sexual matters and wouldn't dream of messing around outside of the confines of a serious relationship, only drinks in moderation, never touches drugs, doesn't smoke, doesn't dress in such a way that 'puts him on display', and doesn't dance in a hyper-sexual dirty manner.

On the other hand I know people who go to clubs for whom all those above statements would be the exact opposite. There's also pretty much all kinds of other people there that fall anywhere in between that very VERY wide range (myself included innocent.gif ), and there's probably even people there who are more 'modest' in their behaviour as well as people who are 'wilder'. So you get a huge range and you get all types of people all under the same roof. There's really nothing to be 'worried' or 'scared' of as long as you 'know who you are', and what you do and don't want to do. The key is to be secure in your identity and not fall into things that aren't right for you.

LOL, anyway that's a long answer to a short question, but yeah I think the story is a pretty accurate representation of one aspect of club culture.


Thanks Kevin!

That's fascinating to me. All in all, it sounds very much like straight clubs and bars, especially with the mix of people and their personalities. But, that makes perfect sense; people are people. smile.gif

QUOTE
You know, I tried to make that scene as unique and original as possible, and I definitely don't think they're similar at all, but I actually had in mind Brandon (from LTMP)'s thoughts and experiences on his own early shopping trips.

So what did you guys think of Aaron's reactions? Did they feel real and natural? As I said, I actually re-wrote Aaron a little bit and adjusted my focus for him as a character. In the original draft he was the sort of person who would have enjoyed going, and I actually had the chapter two scene with Jake insisting that he go playing out something like this:


Wow, thanks. smile.gif
Writing about shopping was hard for me; I'm not exactly fond of shopping. LoL
BTW, Kevin helped on LTMP by giving me some fashion advice. smile.gif

Aaron's reactions felt VERY natural to me, and in my case they fit my own rather well, though he's far more tolerant of shopping than I am. I think you made the right choice; his discomfort was just the perfect touch. I'll also note that writing people who are different from yourself takes skill, and Kevin is not exactly adverse to shopping. wink.gif Well done!

And Kevin, if you do have a cliffhanger at some point, you can count on me to point it out. devilsmiley.gif
CJ innocent.gif

Tiger
QUOTE (C James @ June 8 2008, 01:26 AM) *
Aaron's reactions felt VERY natural to me, and in my case they fit my own rather well, though he's far more tolerant of shopping than I am. I think you made the right choice; his discomfort was just the perfect touch. I'll also note that writing people who are different from yourself takes skill, and Kevin is not exactly adverse to shopping. wink.gif Well done!

And Kevin, if you do have a cliffhanger at some point, you can count on me to point it out.
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CJ innocent.gif

That's interesting to know, CJ. I thought Kev might be one to ask for fashion tips. As for the cliffhangers, I know about how you like to point them out to minimize your own. You definitely like to pick on Steve and me in that regard. mad.gif
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 6 2008, 09:29 PM) *
Btw, I'm curious; how many chapters are there in total?

Hmm, well to be honest I kinda want it to be a surprise. Well maybe "surprise" isn't the best word, but I don't want the readers to start anticipating the end. I'll tell ya privately tho wink.gif

QUOTE (C James @ June 8 2008, 01:26 AM) *
Aaron's reactions felt VERY natural to me, and in my case they fit my own rather well, though he's far more tolerant of shopping than I am. I think you made the right choice; his discomfort was just the perfect touch. I'll also note that writing people who are different from yourself takes skill, and Kevin is not exactly adverse to shopping. wink.gif Well done!

Aww thanks CJ! wub.gif

QUOTE (C James @ June 8 2008, 01:26 AM) *
And Kevin, if you do have a cliffhanger at some point, you can count on me to point it out. devilsmiley.gif

What me with a cliffhanger? Nevah innocent.gif
AFriendlyFace
Just wanted to let you guys know that the new chapter: The Eyes Have It is now available in eFiction! Please check it out and let me know what you think!
wildone
Kev,

Great chapter and thanks specool.gif .

It seems like the flow of the story is really moving now. As I'm getting more comfortable with the characters it is really falling together.

I was kind of surprised about both Daisy and Georgio's reaction to Aaron. It seems that they may be looking out for Ben in a different way than Cosmo is.

Also, I'm really beginning to like the relationship between Mick and Aaron. It is interesting that he is a well off student that likes the money from dancing, even though he doesn't need it. One thing that popped into my mind while reading about that, is my one experience of actually talking with a dancer, so I know it doesn't involve all dancers. That is the drug issue. Don't a lot of dancers use drugs to take off the edge of getting up on stage basically naked? The reason I bring it up, is I hope that Mick isn't a user.

Thanks again for the chapter.

Steve cool.gif
Zilar
Wheeeee

Another great chapter, Kev Kev! biggrin.gif

I love Cosmo, he's just sooo great tongue.gif
I liked the ending scene as well, as Giorgio's reaction is totally unexpected (for me tongue.gif) and he becomes like really possessive! I wonder where you're going to go with that? Are they afraid that Aaron will take Ben away from them? Or are they secretly in love with Ben? AAAAh the possibilities!!

You gotta post your new chapter soon!! *Nods profusely*
steph291
“Dude, what happened to you?”
How'd I know that line was coming... biggrin.gif

Excellent job with the thoughts in this chapter. And I liked how Giorgio and Daisy were looking out for Ben. Well, I think Cosmo was looking out for Ben, too, just in a different way.



Hey, Kevin, do you think you could get the grocery elves to come pay me a visit? happy.gif
AFriendlyFace
Thanks you guys! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (wildone @ June 10 2008, 01:43 AM) *
It seems like the flow of the story is really moving now. As I'm getting more comfortable with the characters it is really falling together.

Awesome! I think I tend to write character (versus plot) based stories so I'm really happy if the characters seem fully formed and fleshed out to you! Indeed one of the challenges I've striven to attain is keeping the cast of characters relatively small and/or not going into as much detail about some of the others.

My original story, Indefensible, was even more character driven than this one and it had a huge cast, each of whom I had a lot of ideas for and wanted to fully characterize. Of course in many ways the whole premise of the story was that there were all these people with complicated, seemingly unconnected lives that fit together in the end to tell the whole narrative.

QUOTE (wildone @ June 10 2008, 01:43 AM) *
Also, I'm really beginning to like the relationship between Mick and Aaron. It is interesting that he is a well off student that likes the money from dancing, even though he doesn't need it. One thing that popped into my mind while reading about that, is my one experience of actually talking with a dancer, so I know it doesn't involve all dancers. That is the drug issue. Don't a lot of dancers use drugs to take off the edge of getting up on stage basically naked? The reason I bring it up, is I hope that Mick isn't a user.

Well, I don't want to directly comment on this for spoiler reasons, but I will say (as the story description in eFiction says) that part of the story deals with drugs and addiction. So it will somehow affect someone to some degree. cap.gif

QUOTE (wildone @ June 10 2008, 01:43 AM) *
I was kind of surprised about both Daisy and Georgio's reaction to Aaron. It seems that they may be looking out for Ben in a different way than Cosmo is.

QUOTE (Zilar @ June 10 2008, 02:21 AM) *
I love Cosmo, he's just sooo great tongue.gif
I liked the ending scene as well, as Giorgio's reaction is totally unexpected (for me tongue.gif) and he becomes like really possessive! I wonder where you're going to go with that? Are they afraid that Aaron will take Ben away from them? Or are they secretly in love with Ben? AAAAh the possibilities!!

QUOTE (wildone @ June 10 2008, 01:43 AM) *
And I liked how Giorgio and Daisy were looking out for Ben. Well, I think Cosmo was looking out for Ben, too, just in a different way.


LOL, I'm kinda surprised you guys were kinda surprised. laugh.gif

I mean I didn't intend for it to be unexpected. Actually I can sort of see how Giorgio's reaction might have been since really the only clue was Cosmo telling Aaron earlier that Giorgio was mad at him (and then later pulling him away before he got a chance to 'talk' to Aaron). However, I'm not surprised readers would assume it wasn't that big a deal or that he'd cooled down. With Daisy though I meant to paint that picture all along.

With that said, since it wasn't expected, did you guys feel that it felt natural and suitably understandable?



QUOTE (Zilar @ June 10 2008, 02:21 AM) *
Wheeeee

Another great chapter, Kev Kev! biggrin.gif

You gotta post your new chapter soon!! *Nods profusely*

Aww thanks Niels! I was hoping to post the chapter a day early like I had been doing, but unfortunately this week has been (and will continue to be) extremely busy for me so I didn't get the chance sad.gif

Hopefully this week I can get the chapter up a bit early though smile.gif

QUOTE (steph291 @ June 10 2008, 08:08 PM) *
“Dude, what happened to you?”
How'd I know that line was coming... biggrin.gif

lmaosmiley.gif

When I saw you predict that a few posts ago I practically fell out of my seat laughing! It's like you'd had a sneak peek at the next chapter or something, lol!

Anyone care to predict any dialogue this week?

I'll give you all a hint, Aaron says something to someone. innocent.gif


QUOTE (steph291 @ June 10 2008, 08:08 PM) *
Excellent job with the thoughts in this chapter.

Thanks smile.gif

QUOTE (steph291 @ June 10 2008, 08:08 PM) *
Hey, Kevin, do you think you could get the grocery elves to come pay me a visit? happy.gif

*sigh*

I've been hoping all week that they would pay me a visit! Yesterday I caved and hit up Kroger wink.gif


Thanks ya'll biggrin.gif
-Kevin
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 10 2008, 11:20 PM) *
With that said, since it wasn't expected, did you guys feel that it felt natural and suitably understandable?

I think it was definitely natural, even though misguided. I mean, wouldn't they think it was better that Aaron wasn't treating him like a one-night stand? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 10 2008, 11:20 PM) *
Anyone care to predict any dialogue this week?
I'll give you all a hint, Aaron says something to someone. innocent.gif

Nah, Aaron will get laryngitis and won't be able to say anything to anyone but us readers. ph34r.gif
C James
Great chapter!!

I'm normally very leery of the present-tense style, but for this story, IMHO, it really works well.

The "grocery elves" scene was hilarious!!! I loved it!!!

To be honest, Mick is the most intriguing character to me at the moment. His behavior towards Aaron makes me wonder about him a little... He's an exhibitionist, but totally scared of sex? Maybe he's not straight?

Hmmm... Aaron seems to have Bmad on his mind. This could get complicated, lol!!

Oh, BTW, I am hereby declaring a CLIFFHANGER! due to the final scene, and whether or not Bmad will call.
smile.gif

AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (C James @ June 14 2008, 01:55 AM) *
I'm normally very leery of the present-tense style, but for this story, IMHO, it really works well.

Thanks! Honestly, so am I (leery that is). Indeed I frequently catch myself lapsing into the more common past-tense (so if anyone sees any such errors please do point them out!)

I have a couple of particular reasons for writing the story in first person present:

-First, it all goes back to the 'reader' being essentially an occupant in Aaron's head, listening to his thoughts and seeing the events unfold through his eyes. It's not supposed to be a story he's recounting but (hopefully) a story the reader is living.

-Second, I wanted to add the feeling that anything could happen. I mean theoretically a piano (ala Corvus' Hotel California) could fall on Aaron's head and kill him dead ending the story:

I hear a cable snap and a jingling of piano keys. Then I notice Mick opening his mouth to scream. Before I can ponder how these two events are related I f...


OK, so that would be a pretty crummy ending of the story I know, and I'll even promise that the story doesn't end that way, but I do want to leave open the possibility that anything could happen.

QUOTE (C James @ June 14 2008, 01:55 AM) *
To be honest, Mick is the most intriguing character to me at the moment. His behavior towards Aaron makes me wonder about him a little... He's an exhibitionist, but totally scared of sex? Maybe he's not straight?

All I'll say is that Mick will continue to be a key player in BMAD as well as the sequel.

QUOTE (C James @ June 14 2008, 01:55 AM) *
Oh, BTW, I am hereby declaring a CLIFFHANGER! due to the final scene, and whether or not Bmad will call.
smile.gif

Me? A cliffhanger? No WAY! innocent.gif


LOL, thanks CJ and all biggrin.gif
-Kevin
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 14 2008, 03:17 AM) *
-Second, I wanted to add the feeling that anything could happen. I mean theoretically a piano (ala Corvus' Hotel California) could fall on Aaron's head and kill him dead ending the story:

Kevin, did you just post a spoiler??!?! mad.gif
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (steph291 @ June 14 2008, 10:42 AM) *
Kevin, did you just post a spoiler??!?! mad.gif

Nope!

All I said was that Aaron doesn't die by falling piano! I didn't mean to imply or preclude any other type of death or indeed any other type of fate! Aaron's perfectly safe smile.gif
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 14 2008, 11:15 AM) *
Nope!

All I said was that Aaron doesn't die by falling piano! I didn't mean to imply or preclude any other type of death or indeed any other type of fate! Aaron's perfectly safe smile.gif

happy.gif I meant a spoiler for corvus' story...
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (steph291 @ June 14 2008, 03:01 PM) *
happy.gif I meant a spoiler for corvus' story...

Oh my gosh!! That I did do!! blush1.gif

**rushes back to edit it out of his post**
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 14 2008, 01:19 PM) *
Oh my gosh!! That I did do!! blush1.gif

**rushes back to edit it out of his post**

arg! I had to edit my posts, too! tongue.gif
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (steph291 @ June 15 2008, 12:59 AM) *
arg! I had to edit my posts, too! tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Fuss at me for leaving out spoilers then you do it! cap.gif tongue.gif


Just wanted to drop by the thread and let everyone know the title for the next chapter. It will be:


The Name Game


I'll give one small spoiler, this is really the first time in the story we really get a considerable amount of Aaron/Ben dialogue, and I must say this chapter was a lot of fun to write!

I'll also promise a couple of good Mick and Jake scenes wink.gif

Hope you guys like it when it posts, incidentally, the chapter is due to be posted in two days, but if anyone can accurately guess what the chapter name references I'll post the next chapter early!
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 15 2008, 06:03 PM) *
The Name Game

Hope you guys like it when it posts, incidentally, the chapter is due to be posted in two days, but if anyone can accurately guess what the chapter name references I'll post the next chapter early!

They know someone in common... OR Aaron explains about their nicknames...
C James
I think Steph's guesses are good, but I'll go with... we find out what the other guys have dubbed Aaron. smile.gif
steph291
QUOTE (C James @ June 15 2008, 11:49 PM) *
I think Steph's guesses are good, but I'll go with... we find out what the other guys have dubbed Aaron. smile.gif

worshippy.gif
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (steph291 @ June 15 2008, 08:21 PM) *
They know someone in common... OR Aaron explains about their nicknames...



QUOTE (C James @ June 16 2008, 01:49 AM) *
I think Steph's guesses are good, but I'll go with... we find out what the other guys have dubbed Aaron. smile.gif



Wow! You guys are good guessers! One of those three is it. So here's a link to the chapter so you find out which, lol laugh.gif

And

That's the second week in a row Steph has guessed something about the plot of the next chapter! I swear she must be sneaking a peek at my BMAD folder when I'm not looking! cap.gif

I hope ya'll enjoy it! Let me know what you think biggrin.gif

-Kevin
Zilar
Congratz on your new chapter, Kev Kev! It's smashing as ever tongue.gif


I think I was grinning throughout the whole conversation between Ben and Aaron tongue.gif
Oh and especially when he called him! Sooo funny!

You are however starting to pick up CJames' bad habbits!!! I mean, come on!
We kinda know he's gonna say it, because you wrote that he didn't come up with anything yet...
BUT I WANNA KNOW HOW BEN REACTS!!! tongue.gif


Anyhow, Keep posting those chapters! worshippy.gif

Cheers

Niels
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 16 2008, 03:13 AM) *
That's the second week in a row Steph has guessed something about the plot of the next chapter! I swear she must be sneaking a peek at my BMAD folder when I'm not looking! cap.gif

who, me? happy.gif

QUOTE (Zilar @ June 16 2008, 04:11 AM) *
You are however starting to pick up CJames' bad habbits!!! I mean, come on!
We kinda know he's gonna say it, because you wrote that he didn't come up with anything yet...
BUT I WANNA KNOW HOW BEN REACTS!!! tongue.gif

grrrr... bad, Kevin! tongue.gif

There's too many funny things in this chapter to even pick out what to highlight. It was a pick-me-up that I sorely needed! Thanks, Kev! happy.gif
Cynical Romantic
Fun reading. Nice and light. I'm enjoying this one so far, but I'd like to see longer chapters, or several chapters posted at once. It's just not satisfying to read only for a few minutes every few days. But hey, that's a compliment; it means the writing is good! I can't wait to see Ben's reaction when Aaron explains his nickname... if he works up the courage. Or does Mick rescue him at the critical moment? I'm betting he does!
wildone
Kev,

Loved the chapter, thanks specool.gif

The conversation between Aaron and Ben had me laughing and smiling the whole time. It is good to see your easing us gently into your new found style of writing cliffhangers tongue.gif . I could see it coming, but actually the whole conversation about each of the names kind of distracts you from what is coming. Great Job.

Now the conversation at the beginning between Mick and Aaron makes me a bet nervous. Could Mick actually be interested in Aaron, and is 'sexual', but just doesn't know how to tell him? Even though Mick is promoting Aaron to go for it with Ben, will he switch to a feeling of jealousy if and when they hook up? Also the comment about Dave and Jose being roommates after breaking up.....was that foreshadowing?

I think the two things I liked about this chapter were first, that Mick really cares about Aaron and is willing to look out for him much the same way Daisy and Georgio will for BMAD. The second thing is with him interacting in a conversation with Ben about the nicknames for his friends it gave the opportunity to do some great character building of everyone. Heck, even the Jake saving Aaron from his notes shows what a great guy he is.

One other final thought (who knew I had so many thoughts in my mind laugh.gif ), I am really liking the way you are presenting the friendship of his friends and the more or less non judgmental way Aaron is reacting to Dave's positive condition. I just wish more people were like this. Thank you hug.gif . In a way, a lot of stories deal with how friends deal with finding out the main character is gay, you have taken this idea to a higher level.

Steve cool.gif
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (Zilar @ June 16 2008, 06:11 AM) *
Congratz on your new chapter, Kev Kev! It's smashing as ever

Thanks Niels!! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Zilar @ June 16 2008, 06:11 AM) *
I think I was grinning throughout the whole conversation between Ben and Aaron tongue.gif
Oh and especially when he called him! Sooo funny!

Thanks! If you don't mind me asking, how did the background stuff work? With Aaron knocking over the cds and commenting about the lesbian, etc? I re-wrote and re-worded that quite a few times, in fact it was probably the most revised, heavily worked on section of the chapter. Did it work and feel natural? Could you visualize it?

QUOTE (Zilar @ June 16 2008, 06:11 AM) *
You are however starting to pick up CJames' bad habbits!!! I mean, come on!
We kinda know he's gonna say it, because you wrote that he didn't come up with anything yet...
BUT I WANNA KNOW HOW BEN REACTS!!! tongue.gif

blush1.gif

Me? Never! LOL, I promise it's really not a cliffhanger heavy story. There's only one more 'kinda cliffhanger' and one more real cliffhanger in the whole thing.



QUOTE (steph291 @ June 16 2008, 02:05 PM) *
who, me?


grrrr... bad, Kevin!

There's too many funny things in this chapter to even pick out what to highlight. It was a pick-me-up that I sorely needed! Thanks, Kev!

Thanks Steph!!

I'm so glad you enjoyed it!! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (hotchikk @ June 16 2008, 09:42 PM) *
Fun reading. Nice and light. I'm enjoying this one so far, but I'd like to see longer chapters, or several chapters posted at once. It's just not satisfying to read only for a few minutes every few days. But hey, that's a compliment; it means the writing is good!

I'm glad you enjoyed, thanks hotchikk! biggrin.gif

As for the short chapters...sorry about that. I was actually trying to make the story 'bite size'. To be honest they're also easier for me to write. The sequel will gradually get into longer, heavier chapters though smile.gif

QUOTE (hotchikk @ June 16 2008, 09:42 PM) *
I can't wait to see Ben's reaction when Aaron explains his nickname... if he works up the courage. Or does Mick rescue him at the critical moment? I'm betting he does!

Hehehe, wait and see! devilsmiley.gif

QUOTE (wildone @ June 18 2008, 10:51 PM) *
Kev,

Loved the chapter, thanks specool.gif

The conversation between Aaron and Ben had me laughing and smiling the whole time. It is good to see your easing us gently into your new found style of writing cliffhangers tongue.gif . I could see it coming, but actually the whole conversation about each of the names kind of distracts you from what is coming. Great Job.

Thanks Steve!! I'm really glad you enjoyed the dialogue. As I said, that was really the first major interaction between the two and it was a lot of fun to write!


QUOTE (wildone @ June 18 2008, 10:51 PM) *
Now the conversation at the beginning between Mick and Aaron makes me a bet nervous. Could Mick actually be interested in Aaron, and is 'sexual', but just doesn't know how to tell him? Even though Mick is promoting Aaron to go for it with Ben, will he switch to a feeling of jealousy if and when they hook up? Also the comment about Dave and Jose being roommates after breaking up.....was that foreshadowing?

Hmm, well I don't want to give away any spoilers but I will say that at least one of those two things either will or will not be discussed further as the story progress wink.gif cap.gif

QUOTE (wildone @ June 18 2008, 10:51 PM) *
I think the two things I liked about this chapter were first, that Mick really cares about Aaron and is willing to look out for him much the same way Daisy and Georgio will for BMAD. The second thing is with him interacting in a conversation with Ben about the nicknames for his friends it gave the opportunity to do some great character building of everyone. Heck, even the Jake saving Aaron from his notes shows what a great guy he is.

Yep, Jake is pretty nifty isn't he? I mean for him to come off as a really loyal friend (to Aaron and Mick) and a good boyfriend to Amanda. Incidentally, he plays a fairly big role toward the end of the story, and if I had to pick my top three favourite scenes in BMAD the one I have in mind with him in it would probably make the cut.

QUOTE (wildone @ June 18 2008, 10:51 PM) *
One other final thought (who knew I had so many thoughts in my mind laugh.gif ), I am really liking the way you are presenting the friendship of his friends and the more or less non judgmental way Aaron is reacting to Dave's positive condition. I just wish more people were like this. Thank you hug.gif . In a way, a lot of stories deal with how friends deal with finding out the main character is gay, you have taken this idea to a higher level.

Thanks! I've just written two successive chapters dealing significantly with Cosmo and a third is on the way. So I hope you don't get sick of him biggrin.gif


Thanks for the comments you guys! biggrin.gif

-Kevin
steph291
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 18 2008, 09:59 PM) *
If you don't mind me asking, how did the background stuff work? With Aaron knocking over the cds and commenting about the lesbian, etc? I re-wrote and re-worded that quite a few times, in fact it was probably the most revised, heavily worked on section of the chapter. Did it work and feel natural? Could you visualize it?

I loved this part! I'm laughing just thinking about it! laugh.gif

You know though, for a second I thought the next scene was still at the store. I thought Ben had surprised him by calling him when he saw him at the store and when they hung up, he came up behind him, thus Ben had seen all of the funny antics! But hey, you're way was much better... with him getting there early and the tongue and... and... hehehehe... I may have to go read it again...
Tiff
Late review. I read this earlier in the week, but then I was doing my own thing and trying to cram a paper for school by a deadline. Procrastinator over here.

Anyway, as usual Kevin, I loved this chapter. It's hard for me to pick a favorite chapter because I like them all. It's humorous, and fun, and engaging. Aaron is a doll, really. Too cute and awkward and genuine. I just love him. Ben is shaping up to be an interesting character. It's cool to see that although Aaron has been observing all those guys for a long time, he really doesn't know anything about them other than the small details, like drink choice for Dave and etc. He doesn't know their history, their friendship, their loyalty.

There was a very tender scene, IMO, when Ben was telling Aaron that Dave and Jose still live together even if they're broken up. And that Jose insisted on it when they found out about Dave. So in the previous chapter was Jose was acting all possessive and jealous, I think it was more out of protection and love. Like Aaron, Ben has his own great set of friends and they're fiercely protective, maybe because they'd been through a lot? Aaron has his own protective brood in Mick and Jake, right? So I like seeing more of all the characters! It seems that people are not what they seem and who knows? Maybe in the end, everyone becomes friends or at least tolerates one another and such.

It's nice to see Ben and Aaron bonding more. Maybe Ben isn't such a playboy, but rather hadn't found anyone to connect with. It was cute watching them joke and laugh about the nicknames. A nice way to bond.

Look forward to the next chapter. Excellent job, as always.s worshippy.gif
Zilar
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 19 2008, 06:59 AM) *
Thanks! If you don't mind me asking, how did the background stuff work? With Aaron knocking over the cds and commenting about the lesbian, etc? I re-wrote and re-worded that quite a few times, in fact it was probably the most revised, heavily worked on section of the chapter. Did it work and feel natural? Could you visualize it?


QUOTE (steph291 @ June 19 2008, 07:33 AM) *
I loved this part! I'm laughing just thinking about it! laugh.gif

You know though, for a second I thought the next scene was still at the store. I thought Ben had surprised him by calling him when he saw him at the store and when they hung up, he came up behind him, thus Ben had seen all of the funny antics! But hey, you're way was much better... with him getting there early and the tongue and... and... hehehehe... I may have to go read it again...


I loved that part as well! I really was falling of my chair then, because the whole scene played itself out in my mind! So you really captured it right!
So chop chop! Keep up the good work! biggrin.gif


QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 19 2008, 06:59 AM) *
blush1.gif

Me? Never! LOL, I promise it's really not a cliffhanger heavy story. There's only one more 'kinda cliffhanger' and one more real cliffhanger in the whole thing.

LOL!
I'll have to read your story before I will be sure of that! You're not that far into the story yet, and still there are some cliffies!

QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 19 2008, 06:59 AM) *
As for the short chapters...sorry about that. I was actually trying to make the story 'bite size'. To be honest they're also easier for me to write. The sequel will gradually get into longer, heavier chapters though smile.gif

Wheee for the longer chapters! biggrin.gif
Personally I found your last chapter kinda short as well... You're enjoying yourself and before you know it it stops! tongue.gif
And my guess is you know how that can feel wink.gif

QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 19 2008, 06:59 AM) *
Yep, Jake is pretty nifty isn't he? I mean for him to come off as a really loyal friend (to Aaron and Mick) and a good boyfriend to Amanda. Incidentally, he plays a fairly big role toward the end of the story, and if I had to pick my top three favourite scenes in BMAD the one I have in mind with him in it would probably make the cut.

Jake is loveable wub.gif I also liked the fact that he jumped in with Mick when Aaron left with Ben for the first time tongue.gif

QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 19 2008, 06:59 AM) *
Thanks for the comments you guys! biggrin.gif

-Kevin

You're welcome worshippy.gif

Keep writing though! biggrin.gif

Cheers

Niels
C James
Great chapter, Kevin! smile.gif

I think Mick is fast becoming my favorite character... he's intriguing.

Bmad definitely looked good in this chapter, and I loved the scene where they were joking about nicknames. smile.gif

Hrmmm, what will Aaron do now, tell Bmad or not? Quite a conundrum (and a cliffie! tongue.gif) My guess is he will; he pretty much has to. This should be good. smile.gif
C James

The reason for this post (I cleared this with Kevin first) was one thing that you MIGHT want to ask an editor or another author or readers about; in a couple of places you had Aaron speaking in two sequential paragraphs. I may be TOTALLY wrong on this, but to me it was slightly confusing (just for a moment) due to the reader having a subconscious assumption of a speaker-change along with the paragraph change. It's grammatically correct, and it is a very minor thing, but I did promise to give you any thoughts I had.

Anyone have any opinions?
CJ smile.gif
steph291
QUOTE (C James @ June 23 2008, 03:12 PM) *
The reason for this post (I cleared this with Kevin first) was one thing that you MIGHT want to ask an editor or another author or readers about; in a couple of places you had Aaron speaking in two sequential paragraphs. I may be TOTALLY wrong on this, but to me it was slightly confusing (just for a moment) due to the reader having a subconscious assumption of a speaker-change along with the paragraph change. It's grammatically correct, and it is a very minor thing, but I did promise to give you any thoughts I had.

Anyone have any opinions?
CJ smile.gif

Yeah, I mentioned this to Kevin in his second chapter. I don't know if it's a rule or good practice? I understand Kevin's desire to have pauses in the conversation, though, so I'm trying hard to ignore my red pen happy.gif
sat8997
I'll admit we are playing a bit fast and loose with what is considered correct structure. But Kevin was very specific in how he wanted this story to look and feel. The author always has the last say so I'm going with his flow...
AFriendlyFace
*sigh*

So I had some 'problems' with eFiction and instead of adding the new chapter I accidentally deleted the whole story sceptic.gif

It's a bit late and I'm very tired so I don't have time to try to re-post everything tonight. Instead then I'm just going to post chapter 6 in a separate thread (which I'll merge back into this one in a couple of days).

Sorry about the inconvenience everyone.

At least I stuck to updating by the end of the 23rd (I still have almost a half an hour! smile.gif )....I never promised I'd leave the other chapters up, only that I'd post a new one innocent.gif ( wacko.gif blink.gif )

(so not happy about this mad.gif )

Once again apologies all and I hope you like the new chapter,
-Kevin (who is not on the tech team)
AFriendlyFace
Chapter 6: The Truth Hurts


“What’s my nickname, Aaron?” Ben asks, repeating his question as he looks at me expectantly.

I should lie. I know I should lie. I should say ‘it’s Hottie’ and kiss him. Or maybe ‘it’s Sexy Ass’ and wink at him or something.

But I know he’d see through that. He already seems to have developed a very disconcerting habit of calling me on my bull shit. Anyway, I guess when you think about it ‘Hottie’ doesn’t really fit with ‘Cosmo’, ‘Daisy’, and ‘Giorgio’.


“Well…umm, you know how you…I mean sometimes…Well,” I really can’t figure out a way say this.

“Aar, com’on. Just tell me” He says as he puts his hand on my arm and appropriates Jake’s nickname for me. Damn! I already like it better when he says it than when Jake does. Why couldn’t his nickname be something cute and affectionate?

“Benji is a good nickname for Ben,” I offer. Okay, it’s not exactly the truth, but it’s no lie either!

“Yeah, and my mom calls me that sometimes, but what do YOU call me?” See! See! I told you he wasn’t going to fall for lying!

Oh well, I’m interested in the guy, and after all they do say that honesty is the cornerstone of any good relationship.


“Bmad,” I mumble in a very low voice as I avert my eyes and admire his taste in shoes. Hmm, I wonder if that would change the subject effectively.

“Cool, shoes man!” I say quickly in a much louder, more enthusiastic voice. Hey, it’s worth a shot right?

“Thanks…but I didn’t hear what you said before that.”

WRONG!

I look up at him and briefly establish eye contact, pleading with him not to get angry, when I tell him. Suddenly I lose myself in the moment. I mean it’s funny really, I knew he had green eyes, but until now I’d never really noticed just how deep and expressive they were.

“You have beautiful eyes,” I say with a slight sigh. I seriously wasn’t stalling there. His eyes are just so beautiful, I couldn’t not tell him when I noticed.

“Thanks. I have beautiful eyes, cool shoes, and a nickname. Now what was that nickname again?” Tenacious isn’t he?

*gulp*

Time to take the plunge.

“Bmad,” I say much more loudly this time, steeling my resolve.

“Be mad? What? I’m not mad but why won’t you tell me?” He questions haltingly as if none of this made sense. Oh wait it doesn’t.

“No, um, your nickname. It’s Bmad. Not ‘be’ as in ‘Be, being, been’,” Do you know your linking verbs, boys and girls? “but ‘B’ as in ‘A, B, C, D…’ ya know, and ‘mad’ is just like how you say it…it’s not mad like ‘angry’” I hope! “It’s really like ‘b, m, a, d’.”

“Okkaaayyyy?”

Perfect! I knew he wouldn’t be angry! Back to staring into his eyes now.

“But what does that mean? Like what’s it stand for?” CRAP! What is this an interrogation?

“Buy me a drink,” I say quickly. It’s like ripping off a band-aid. One quick motion, one quick motion.

He starts to say something, probably something to the effect of ‘I don’t buy people drinks, they buy me drinks’, then understanding flashes into his deep green, very beautiful eyes, and suddenly they’re glaring at me as though I’d just remarked that he was wearing last year’s color.

“That’s all you think I am isn’t it? Some stupid joke?! Some drunken slut who can’t keep his pants on!”

Actually it’s your shirt you seem to have that problem with, but now isn’t the time for that.

“I didn’t say that? I mean that’s…”

“But that’s what you think, isn’t it? You just sit here every goddamn night scribbling in your notes. Jotting down, ‘Oh look, Bmad caught another one’!” f**K! Did he read that? No, he couldn’t have, it wasn’t written anywhere on the page he was looking at.

“I…Umm…Sorry?” I offer weakly.

“Prick!” he shouts as he puts his cigarette out – thankfully not on my arm – and then storms back inside.


You know why fish all swim in the same direction when they’re in one of those ‘school’ things? It’s because if one of them turned around and tried to swim in the opposite direction he would crash into all the other fish. Duh.

“Ben, wait!” I shout as I take off after him.

Unfortunately it’s getting later and the club is starting to fill up. I guess none of the smokers want to try their luck at dancing until they’ve reduced their lung capacity a little farther, and eight of them all seem intent on coming outside just as I’m attempting to do the opposite.

By the time I finally make it back inside – I swear they would have lit up and smoked the damn things in the doorway if I hadn’t glared at them – Ben is nowhere to be found. Desperately scanning the club, the first set of eyes I make contact with are Jake’s. He looks concerned and nods his head toward the front. There are fewer people in the front and clearly none of them are Ben, so I rush outside…and right into a line of people queuing up to get in.

After I swim err ‘walk’ a bit further I pause, out of breath, and ask the nearest group of guys, “Did anyone see a really hot guy go past?”

“Just one,” one of them responds with a leer. Whoa! Did I just get hit on?

“Dark blond hair? Having a ‘Joan Collins’ moment?” Another member of the group inquires. “He went that way,” the guy says pointing toward Hollywood Café, a late night coffee house and bistro popular with the club crowd.

“Thanks!” I say as I take off at a slight sprint toward the coffee house.

After a quick, frantic search, I spot Ben sitting in a booth at the back of the coffee house, calmly drinking a cappuccino. As I slide into the booth, I can’t help but wonder if he’ll ever speak to me again.

“You want my biscotti?” he offers casually, not looking at me. “I don’t really like them.”

“Um, no thanks. Listen Ben…”

“You should go get something, Aar,” he cuts me off with a slight edge to his voice. “They’ll throw you out if you don’t.”

“O-K…,” I say hesitantly as I turn around and go to the counter.

When I make it back to the booth with my coffee, I’m relieved to find him still sitting there lost in thought and lightly tapping the outside of his mug with a spoon.

“Ben, about before–,” I start as he once again cuts me off mid-sentence.

“Matt and I met Jose here. Right in this booth actually. It was about four years ago. He looked so helpless and nervous just sitting here. He had just moved here from Columbia. It was right after his parents had freaked out about him being gay. Anyway, he was just sitting here, staring desperately into his drink like he thought it held the secret to life or something.

“Matt and I were still in high school, and Matt was taking Spanish – he’s fluent now – so he went right up to Jose and said:

“‘Por que estas tan triste, guapo?’

“It means, ‘why are you so sad, handsome?’

“Matt was just flirting with him. I mean it’s not like he actually cared. But then Jose broke down and started sobbing and he told us everything and…

“And then Matt did you know? Care that is…we both did.” Ben finishes quietly as he stares into his own half-consumed beverage. “I guess sitting here just sort of reminded me.”

You know what would have been adorable? If I’d like slid around to his side, put my arm around him and said that ‘triste/guapo’ line to him. That woulda been so priceless. Instead I opted for:

“Oh”

Sighing and breaking out of his reverie he looks at me and teases, “Finish your coffee; you still owe me that drink.”




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I don’t think Daisy likes me. I mean I might have mentioned that before, but I think it’s especially important that I stress that point again now.

See, evidently he and Giorgio are taking the whole, ‘let’s make Aaron want to shoot himself’ thing in turn. Guess whose turn it was tonight?

Apparently it was such an important mission that Daisy didn’t even pick up a trick. Instead he spent the whole evening plastered to Ben’s side. Whenever we danced he slid in between us and started dancing with Ben himself. Then he would like lead them in a different direction – you know, away from me – and I was stuck following them around like a lost puppy.

At one point, when we were in line in the restroom he even started to go into Ben’s stall with him. At this Ben glared at him (FINALLY!) and Daisy pretended to be joking.

Cosmo, ever the trooper, did what he could to give us some breathing room, but unfortunately every time he was with us for more than a few minutes Giorgio would show up and like, distract him somehow.

By the time they were leaving – Giorgio the only with a trick – I was pretty pissed off. I mean, okay Daisy is a bitch and Giorgio is huge, but Ben’s a big boy – by all indications a very big boy – so what was stopping him from telling them to f**K off?



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“Cheese fries, boys?” Boots asks as she comes up to our table. Boots is one of the waitresses at Frank’s. We – well mostly me – call her ‘Boots’ because even though they have these weird little purple dresses for uniforms, she always wears these low, combat boot, style shoes. It’s really weird.

“Yes, ma’am, thanks,” Mick is so polite.

“Bring a side of cyanide dipping sauce for me, please,” I add sarcastically.

“I don’t think we have any of that, Hun. How ‘bout some Ranch instead?” Boots offers. I have no idea whether she’s serious or not.

“Ranch will be fine, thanks,” Mick says quickly before I can say anything else.

“So, I’m guessing your night with Ben wasn’t an unqualified success?” Mick asks with a sympathetic smile on his face.

“Well, I guess it depends on how you define success. If you include calling him an alcoholic whore and then following him around all night while Daisy did everything but scratch my eyes out…then yeah, we had a grand ol’ time.”

Mick is silent for awhile, reflecting on this. When he speaks again I decide that he must secretly hate me.

“So where are you going to go with him tomorrow?”

“Um, What?” I think I’m starting to pick up Daisy’s bitchy head bob.

“Well you’re going to call him tomorrow and ask him to hang out right?”

“I’m thinkin’ ‘no’…,” I say stretching out the ‘o’.

“Well think again,” Mick informs me. “Listen, you’re not dating ‘Daisy’, you’re dating Ben.”

“Actually I’m not dating Ben. I’m…well I don’t know what I am.”

“Well I do. Tomorrow afternoon you’re calling Ben and asking him to come over and hang out. Then when I get home from working out the three of us are going out to dinner.”

Don’t you just love it when someone else plans your life out for you?

“Mick, why should I even bother? What about him, huh? The phone works both ways you know.”

“Yes, it does, and as I recall he called you last.”

“…well that was different. He…I mean I…well we…it was…I was wearing a different shirt,” I finish randomly in desperation, unable to figure out just what my excuse is.

“Well then put the shirt back on tomorrow afternoon when you call him.”

“It’s in the laundry,” I snap harshly.

“Wear a different one.”

Mick is so unbearable when he knows he’s right.


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Please let me know what you thought! (of the chapter that is, not my ineptitude with eFiction cap.gif)


Feel free to post in this thread or the discussion thread, here's probably easier for now, but either way I'll merge both later smile.gif
wildone
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 23 2008, 10:32 PM) *
*sigh*

So I had some 'problems' with eFiction and instead of adding the new chapter I accidentally deleted the whole story sceptic.gif

It's a bit late and I'm very tired so I don't have time to try to re-post everything tonight. Instead then I'm just going to post chapter 6 in a separate thread (which I'll merge back into this one in a couple of days).

Sorry about the inconvenience everyone.

At least I stuck to updating by the end of the 23rd (I still have almost a half an hour! smile.gif )....I never promised I'd leave the other chapters up, only that I'd post a new one innocent.gif ( wacko.gif blink.gif )

(so not happy about this mad.gif )

Once again apologies all and I hope you like the new chapter,
-Kevin (who is not on the tech team)


What's done is done, eh? tongue.gif

I don't know if I should post here or over there blink.gif .

So I guess since the majority of the posts are here, I will continue on here.

Thanks for the new chapter Kevin. biggrin.gif

I was a little surprised at Ben's reaction to when Aaron finally told him what BMAD stood for. Not so much the immediate anger, but how he was more subdued and maybe....disappointed when Aaron showed up at the coffee shop. I wonder if Aaron's nickname maybe had a bit of truth to it, and Ben needed to reflect on that. Him bringing up meeting Jose at the same booth appeared to be a bit of a teaser of more to come.

Got to love Mick, even more. It wonder if Mick and Cosmo have talked and are both on the same page of trying to get the two together.

A couple of points had me grinning, first was the analogy of the fish going against the school. Never figured out why they did that, always thought it was kind of like the flying geese, but you answered a lifelong question for me in one sentence. Thanks thumbsupsmileyanim.gif . I guess I never thought of bar crowds being like a school of fish blink.gif .

The second thing that had me chuckling was since Aaron's makeover, and especially this chapter, he seems to be a little bit more humourous with the fashion statements. The nice shoes, and the shirt in the laundry, I guess I never would have never expected that from Aaron (but from some of your posts, is there a bit of Kevin in Aaron laugh.gif ?).


Great chapter again Kev, hope you get everything up and running again soon.

Steve cool.gif
steph291
Kev, I'm kinda confused on the quick resolution of the little tantrum Ben had... blink.gif
steph291
QUOTE (wildone @ June 23 2008, 10:15 PM) *
I don't know if I should post here or over there blink.gif .
So I guess since the majority of the posts are here, I will continue on here.

oopsie... I posted over there... wacko.gif

anyway, I was confused on the resolution, too. I mean, Aaron didn't give Ben anything to work with... well, besides the fact that he did run after him and find him.
wildone
QUOTE (steph291 @ June 23 2008, 11:15 PM) *
Kev, I'm kinda confused on the quick resolution of the little tantrum Ben had... blink.gif


Me too, I made my post here

I think there is more to come.

Steve cool.gif
darkfoxprime
QUOTE (steph291 @ June 23 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Yeah, I mentioned this to Kevin in his second chapter. I don't know if it's a rule or good practice? I understand Kevin's desire to have pauses in the conversation, though, so I'm trying hard to ignore my red pen happy.gif


I don't remember exactly what you're rereferring to here, but one general way to indicate that the next paragraph is still being spoken by the same person is to *leave off* the quotation mark at the end of the previous paragraph. That signals that the next paragraph is more of the same quotation. Not sure if it would work in these cases, tho, without seeing it.

- dfp
steph291
QUOTE (darkfoxprime @ June 24 2008, 05:40 AM) *
I don't remember exactly what you're rereferring to here, but one general way to indicate that the next paragraph is still being spoken by the same person is to *leave off* the quotation mark at the end of the previous paragraph. That signals that the next paragraph is more of the same quotation. Not sure if it would work in these cases, tho, without seeing it.

- dfp

true, fox! here's an example where Kevin did exactly what you suggested... happy.gif

QUOTE
“Ben, about before–,” I start as he once again cuts me off mid-sentence.

“Matt and I met Jose here. Right in this booth actually. It was about four years ago. He looked so helpless and nervous just sitting here. He had just moved here from Columbia. It was right after his parents had freaked out about him being gay. Anyway, he was just sitting here, staring desperately into his drink like he thought it held the secret to life or something.

“Matt and I were still in high school, and Matt was taking Spanish – he’s fluent now – so he went right up to Jose and said:

“‘Por que estas tan triste, guapo?’

“It means, ‘why are you so sad, handsome?’

“Matt was just flirting with him. I mean it’s not like he actually cared. But then Jose broke down and started sobbing and he told us everything and…

“And then Matt did you know? Care that is…we both did.” Ben finishes quietly as he stares into his own half-consumed beverage. “I guess sitting here just sort of reminded me.”
Dion
I'm really enjoying the story - love the characters - and I confess to laughing a bit at your misfortune, Kev. I'm sorry. I know it must be really frustrating for you.

And then when I went to click on page 6 of this thread and read the latest instalment, I got redirected to a page that read 'IRP Driver Error' and my first thought was 'Oh my - what did Kevin do to it?'

I really, really apologize. It's the first thing I've laughed about in weeks. tongue.gif
B1ue
QUOTE
“…well that was different. He…I mean I…well we…it was…I was wearing a different shirt,” I finish randomly in desperation, unable to figure out just what my excuse is.
cwm27.gif

I love that. Good job, Kev.
C James
Sorry I'm late. smile.gif

Kevin, this brightened my day. I loved the humor, and the squirming Arron was going! Bmad seems to have issues in some ways.

My take on the resolution was; sitting where he did brought back memories and calmed him down.

My favorite line has got to be the one about "waearing a different shirt". And of course, Mick being insufferable when right.
Great job Kevin!!
shadowgod
Ooo It's the 30th!

I'll just sit here and wait patiently for the next chapter, and of course for Cj to declare a cliffhanger... ( he likes doing that dontcha know)
outoftheashes
QUOTE (shadowgod @ June 30 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Ooo It's the 30th!

I'll just sit here and wait patiently for the next chapter,


Just what I was thinking!
AFriendlyFace
Hi everyone!

Sorry I've been so quiet in here lately! I really REALLY appreciate your thoughts and comments biggrin.gif

QUOTE (steph291 @ June 23 2008, 06:03 PM) *
Yeah, I mentioned this to Kevin in his second chapter. I don't know if it's a rule or good practice? I understand Kevin's desire to have pauses in the conversation, though, so I'm trying hard to ignore my red pen happy.gif

QUOTE (sat8997 @ June 23 2008, 06:18 PM) *
I'll admit we are playing a bit fast and loose with what is considered correct structure. But Kevin was very specific in how he wanted this story to look and feel. The author always has the last say so I'm going with his flow...

Thanks Steph and Sharon.

Yep, as I said to Sharon initially my primary concern for the story is how it reads, even if that comes at the expense of proper punctuation sometimes.

QUOTE (wildone @ June 24 2008, 12:15 AM) *
I was a little surprised at Ben's reaction to when Aaron finally told him what BMAD stood for. Not so much the immediate anger, but how he was more subdued and maybe....disappointed when Aaron showed up at the coffee shop. I wonder if Aaron's nickname maybe had a bit of truth to it, and Ben needed to reflect on that.

QUOTE (steph291 @ June 24 2008, 12:15 AM) *
Kev, I'm kinda confused on the quick resolution of the little tantrum Ben had... blink.gif

anyway, I was confused on the resolution, too. I mean, Aaron didn't give Ben anything to work with... well, besides the fact that he did run after him and find him.

QUOTE (C James @ June 29 2008, 03:36 AM) *
Bmad seems to have issues in some ways.

My take on the resolution was; sitting where he did brought back memories and calmed him down.


Mostly what I was going for with that scene was showing the way in which Ben handles his feelings. First off I mean to portray him as somewhat volatile, he expresses his feelings initially but in a fairly extreme way. Next I was hoping to show that he is reluctant to openly and calmly discuss what's bothering him, even when he's calmed down. Aaron wanted to discuss things with him, but he first sent Aaron away (wasn't ready to talk to him at all), and then refused to talk directly about the subject at hand (choosing to discuss he and Daisy's meeting of Giorgio). The final thing I was trying to show is that he does 'get over things' in that he just wanted to put it behind him and continue his evening after he'd calmed down. Those were the major aspects of his personality I was hoping the scene would show

I also think CJ and Steve are correct (although this is my interpretation and even though I'm the author I concede that it's still open to interpretation) in that he did need to reflect on how true Aaron's words were and that being in that familiar place did calm him down.

Next, I think the mentioning of Jose had relevance there because it actually was meant as a sideways explanation. It's my opinion that Ben, Giorgio, Daisy, and Cosmo are the way they are because of each other. Discussing how far he goes back with Daisy and how Giorgio entered their lives is a roundabout explanation for how he came to be the person he is today and it's a more comfortable way to explain things for Ben than a direct approach would be.

QUOTE (wildone @ June 24 2008, 12:15 AM) *
A couple of points had me grinning, first was the analogy of the fish going against the school. Never figured out why they did that, always thought it was kind of like the flying geese, but you answered a lifelong question for me in one sentence. Thanks thumbsupsmileyanim.gif . I guess I never thought of bar crowds being like a school of fish blink.gif .

Thanks Steve!

LOL, well I didn't do research on that; it's just Aaron's opinion (and mine tongue.gif cap.gif)

QUOTE (wildone @ June 24 2008, 12:15 AM) *
The second thing that had me chuckling was since Aaron's makeover, and especially this chapter, he seems to be a little bit more humourous with the fashion statements. The nice shoes, and the shirt in the laundry, I guess I never would have never expected that from Aaron (but from some of your posts, is there a bit of Kevin in Aaron laugh.gif ?).

Oh wow! Thank you for pointing this out, Steve! Aaron (and everyone of the other characters) does have a bit of me in them (probably couldn't write them convincingly if they didn't), but I didn't mean to put that part in Aaron. I thought it fit Aaron as I conceptualized him, but I definitely might have been blind to it.

However, you're right, in that Aaron is gradually changing as a result of his makeover and a lot of other experiences...so maybe it does work anyway.
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (Dion @ June 26 2008, 05:21 AM) *
I'm really enjoying the story - love the characters - and I confess to laughing a bit at your misfortune, Kev. I'm sorry. I know it must be really frustrating for you.

And then when I went to click on page 6 of this thread and read the latest instalment, I got redirected to a page that read 'IRP Driver Error' and my first thought was 'Oh my - what did Kevin do to it?'

I really, really apologize. It's the first thing I've laughed about in weeks. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Well then it was worth it just for that, Dion smile.gif

QUOTE (B1ue @ June 26 2008, 04:29 PM) *
cwm27.gif

I love that. Good job, Kev.

Thanks, Gabe!

Yep, that's one of my favourites too! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (C James @ June 29 2008, 03:36 AM) *
Kevin, this brightened my day. I loved the humor, and the squirming Arron was going!

My favorite line has got to be the one about "waearing a different shirt". And of course, Mick being insufferable when right.
Great job Kevin!!

Thanks CJ! biggrin.gif

Glad to see that line was so popular!


QUOTE (shadowgod @ June 30 2008, 01:39 PM) *
Ooo It's the 30th!

I'll just sit here and wait patiently for the next chapter, and of course for Cj to declare a cliffhanger... ( he likes doing that dontcha know)

*sigh*

I feel awful that I still haven't gotten to fix the eFiction situation. I know it's no excuse, but the reason is simply that I've been very busy this week, and while it's a high priority it's not a fun activity and it's time consuming (at least for me) so I've been putting it off.

I will have the next chapter up in some form on time (which gives me exactly an hour), but I'm afraid that form will be another thread post. Sorry Everyone sad.gif

You have my word that I'll have all the chapters in eFiction by Thursday evening (and I'm shooting for Wednesday evening).