QUOTE (Tiger @ May 27 2008, 08:28 AM)

Yes, I definitely love the title. In fact, I like all the titles so far. I won't reveal the names of them, but I can say that I like them.

Thanks Tim! LOL, and thanks for not revealing them either, it is fun to have a surprise in that regard I think!
I also have to admit that I've always really liked giving things titles. In all honesty it's a simple joy that's one of my favourite aspects of being a writer. In fact, if anyone happens to remember I even liked it so much I used to name the
scenes within
Indefensible. Of course the chapters and scenes themselves were much longer (about twice as long actually) than they are for BMAD.
QUOTE (sat8997 @ May 27 2008, 04:06 PM)

Oh I should certainly hope not. I don't think Kevin's editor would like that very much. I hear she can be very scary.
My personal favorite is Chapter Eight

Thanks Sharon!

LOL, and I appreciate you keeping us in line about spoilers too! I like to chat (there's a surprise), so I'll have to be very careful to avoid giving anything away.
Chapter Eight's title is probably my favourite too. Largely in part because it's not only fun, but I had several layers of meaning in mind with it. I'm very much looking forward to discussing why I named it what I did, lol.
With "Hot Mess" it's pretty obvious. Anyone have any speculation about the title of chapter 2, "One For Later"?
QUOTE (sat8997 @ May 27 2008, 06:25 PM)

Sooo…the first time I read this, I was having such a good time laughing and being entertained that I didn’t even notice that I didn’t know Aaron’s name right off the bat. I was too interested in Mick and Jake and BMAD’s crew, seeing them through the narrator’s eyes. So for me anyway, it didn't really matter.
Thanks!

I was having so much fun writing it that's probably why I left it as late as I did too

QUOTE (Tiger @ May 27 2008, 07:16 PM)

I was too, Sharon. I happen to like how Aaron seems to have nicknames for them all. Another thing that jumped out at me was that the story is almost like a journal, yet it is not.
Good observation, Tim. At one point very early on I toyed with the idea of making it into one of Aaron's journals. I actually decided against it because had I done it journal style it would have been
much more formal. This is supposed to be Aaron
speaking and
thinking NOT
writing. Aaron is a well-educated college student with aspirations of completing a thesis. I think his writing would be much more formal, and he wouldn't be interjecting his silly thoughts and comments all the time.
LOL, in that way please don't regard this story as
my writing, guys. Please regard it as
Aaron's thoughts and storytelling.
QUOTE (corvus @ May 27 2008, 07:31 PM)

Hey Kevin, here's to a fine new voice on GA! Well, it's not really new -- anyone with his head screwed on right would've figured from your posts that you'd have a gift for storytelling. What I find most appealing is your convincing rendering of the shallow-gay-world and the overall tone and voice. It's light and humorous, but I think you have the capability to do something visceral with it, too.
Thanks Corvus!

QUOTE (corvus @ May 27 2008, 07:31 PM)

Since I respect you too much to write you off with nothing but praise, I'll give you my dish of concrit as well.

One is that I don't think you need those italics. You're already in first person, and all this italicizing makes me wonder if Aaron is schizophrenic.
That's a valid consideration. My primary purpose was to make it easier for the reader to distinguish Aaron's spoken words from his inner monologue, because very often his inner monologue sounds and looks very much like something he might say. I tend to think the story is more confusing and more difficult to read without the italics, but of course that's a judgment call.
Sharon actually made that suggestion, and I think it was an excellent one! I was pretty much insistent on doing
something to make the dialogue stand out, and my original idea and strategy (she had to go back and do a lot of work to correct this actually!

) was to use bold for the dialogue and leave everything standard. I think that would have been a MUCH worse idea! For one thing thoughts in italics is a more accepted convention (Aaron just has ALOT of them), apart from which it actually makes everything easier to read since it now comes down to:
Quotation marks for dialogue
Italics for thoughts and comments
Standard font for exposition
I'm really not an exposition kinda guy, and this story in particular is more chat/thoughty than standard exposition, so without even meaning to, I think there's actually a pretty even blend of all three. Italicized thoughts and comments a probably still the least used of the three though.
Regarding the Aaron being Schizophrenic thing...is he? I don't mean to suggest he is, nor do I actively mean to suggest he isn't for that matter, but I would like to say two things regarding this. First of all, Aaron isn't supposed to be the world's most normal person. The hyper-active, over-caffeinated racing thoughts are one major manifestation of his personality.
Second, the style truly is supposed to represent internal thoughts and informal conversation versus traditional writing. It's definitely unconventional to list
all of a character's thoughts, but I think that someone
having thoughts is actually pretty true to life. Granted the majority of most people's thoughts probably aren't necessarily as neatly formed or as witty and/or sarcastic, so to some extent that's creative license, but I think most people do spend big chunks of their day and major portions of their conversations with unspoken thoughts flying around their heads.
QUOTE (corvus @ May 27 2008, 07:31 PM)

Secondly, I wasn't terribly convinced by the moment Aaron and Bmad met. Instead of thinking, "This is definitely NOT according to script," I would have him "stare. And step back, sputtering" before doing his clever thinking.
You're definitely right! Thank you for pointing that out. I'm almost positive I would have taken that into consideration and re-written it had that occurred to me prior to posting the chapter. Wish it had!
QUOTE (corvus @ May 27 2008, 07:31 PM)

Thirdly, some of Aaron's thoughts pushed dangerously on the "this is here b/c it's clever" line. So I'd be careful with that.
Point well taken, and from a personal perspective as the writer you've probably got a point. However, without wanting to reveal any spoilers, I may just have something in mind with Aaron's tendency to be relentlessly sarcastic. So yes, on the one hand the lines are there because they're fun, but on the other I don't mean for them to be completely incidental either.
In any case, you're definitely right that I could easily go too far and must be careful! Indeed, after several days 'trapped inside Aaron's head' I did have the urge to slap him and demand that he quit being such an irritating, lippy prick. So you're right, I must be careful to avoid annoying the audience, taking things too far, or being unrealistic.
Wonderful review, Corvus, thanks!

QUOTE (corvus @ May 27 2008, 07:31 PM)

I'm glad you're truly writing now! I mean, epic!posts, who cares about those, even if they've an accumulated word count of 100,000...

Anyway, Chapter 2: One For Later, will definitely be online no later than the evening of Thursday the 29th or the morning of Friday the 30th. However, there's a chance I'll end up posting it about a day before that (thus tonight/early Thursday morning) if I'm able to finish the first chapter of the sequel (I'm kinda hoping to stay pretty far ahead of the posting).
Take care all, thanks for reading, and have a great day!
Kevin