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Without You by Myk
Even the most difficult times are manageable with the help of someone you love, but without that person, what would you do?



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Tiff
How do you do it, man? The last minute anthologies that seem to have so much put into it? I can't even get the same type of emotion even if it took me weeks? Wow! You have some gift. I've been hoping you would come up with something for this one and I wasn't disappointed.

the beginning sets up a sad ending, so I was expecting it, but I loved the details you provided throughout the entire ordeal of Will's pancreatic cancer. Cancer is tough and I think you portrayed it very well, from Will as the patient, to Paul as the caregiver. It's tough on both. Will has to go through the physical torment of chemo while Paul struggled to remain by his side while dealing with classes. A balancing act. I anticipated Will trying to give up during his second round of chemo. It's exhausting and drains your life away, to the point where you wonder if it's worth it. Thank goodness Paul saved him and gave him strength to keep on fighting.

Sadly, just as things were going well for them--Will had been operated on, his parents were coming around, and Paul and him could return home--a tragic thing just happened to occurr on their way out. Fate and timing, huh? Ironic and beautiful at the same time.

Poor Paul, hit in the neck, instant death. When he said he felt no pain, I felt like crying. It was so sad and beautiful at the same time. At least he would not die slowly and in agony. And he knew he was going to die, he said his last 'I love yous' to Will. A tearjerker.

But of course you weren't done...the ending. A terrible and beautiful ending. Very vivid. I could see what was happening as Will was doing it. The detail you provided, like his mother being pissed about the towels or something. The little things you managed to insert that made it so real. That Will was thinking about those insignificant details as he was dying, as he was bleeding to death.

I feel terrible for him. Paul had been his rock through the chemo ordeal, but now Paul was not around and could not save him from this, not even Paul's memory. So he felt like he had no life left, no will to live, no strength or fight left in him. After all, once Paul died, he no longer had a home. His parents weren't very supportive either, suggesting a girl for him. So all he could do was join Paul, come to him. His last words were really memorable. Simple words, but in the context of it all, very memorable and powerful.

Well, I've gone on and on, but that just means I loved the story. You're a great writer Greg; you need to write more often! I'm definitely a fan.
Krista
Oh my you are Evil Greg... EVIL. How dare you make a girl cry and blubber over a story.. I was distracted by the image of your spontaneous dancing and curious about the promise of evil in your anthology.. I guess you can blame both of those on me.. BUT for the record you are still E-v-i-l. Meanie. sad.gif


Joking aside....

I LOVED IT!

The beginning sets up a sad ending, but I thought as I went through - well it could have been someone else other than Paul. Especially after Will recovered from a successful surgery and my Anatomy and medical classes helped me tremendously while reading, but you explained his condition with Pancreatic cancer well. Then as you wrote, "Bang!" "Bang!" my eyes narrowed and I was thinking damn it's Paul.

Their relationship was beautiful and strong and I knew from the beginning that if one died the other would too, so I was "double hoping" for a happy ending as I am a die hard romantic-happy-ending kind of girl. The death of both characters were beautiful in their own very different way. Even if I had some small feeling of anger that Will took suicide as a way out of things, their relationship made the act at least forgivable. A tragedy about complete devotion.
C James
A tragedy indeed, well done, poignant. At first, I thought William would die; the odds are long with Pancreatic cancer. Everything seemed to be setting us up for tragedy, yet he pulled through. Then the mention of gunshot wounds.. Uhoh. And then the "bang, bang" and I knew... This is a double tragedy, but especially for William, he beat such long odds at such cost, only to die.

I agree with Krista, you are EVIL! tongue.gif

Seriously though, well done!
Graeme
I think everyone has said everything I wanted to say smile.gif A powerful and well-crafted story thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

Your medical training showed, but it didn't obscure the story. I admired the way you had William translate the medical jargon for Paul -- keeping things realistic (the use of the jargon), but explaining things to the readers at the same time.

Well done! specool.gif
darkfoxprime
This was a hard story to read through for editing, because I kept having to go back a few paragraphs and remind myself to read the words, not the story; I kept getting caught up in it!

I often insist that I dislike reading sad stories, but the good ones always catch my attention and draw me on through the (bitter) conclusion, always hoping for that miracle ending.

Good job!
AFriendlyFace
Amazing job, Greg!

I always love stories that make me cry, and this one certainly did!

Unfortunately I don't feel able to add much to what has already been said either, but it was an all around awesome story! I'm so glad you finished it in time! Way to go!

hug.gif

-Kevin
Myk
Wow, I just can't help but smile from the feedback I am getting, it is more than I could have hoped for already, thanks guys wub.gif

QUOTE (Tiff @ June 13 2008, 01:18 AM) *
How do you do it, man? The last minute anthologies that seem to have so much put into it? I can't even get the same type of emotion even if it took me weeks? Wow! You have some gift. I've been hoping you would come up with something for this one and I wasn't disappointed.

...

Well, I've gone on and on, but that just means I loved the story. You're a great writer Greg; you need to write more often! I'm definitely a fan.

Tiff, I can't tell you how much you totally made my week with this post!! I was about to go to bed when I saw you writing it last night and I just had to stay up to see what you would write. When I saw what you said I was so touched. Needless to say I went to bed very happy, so thank you!! wub.gif

QUOTE (Krista @ June 13 2008, 01:54 PM) *
Oh my you are Evil Greg... EVIL. How dare you make a girl cry and blubber over a story.. I was distracted by the image of your spontaneous dancing and curious about the promise of evil in your anthology.. I guess you can blame both of those on me.. BUT for the record you are still E-v-i-l. Meanie. sad.gif

...

Their relationship was beautiful and strong and I knew from the beginning that if one died the other would too, so I was "double hoping" for a happy ending as I am a die hard romantic-happy-ending kind of girl. The death of both characters were beautiful in their own very different way. Even if I had some small feeling of anger that Will took suicide as a way out of things, their relationship made the act at least forgivable. A tragedy about complete devotion.

I told you it was evil!!! I am also one of those guys that hopes for the happy endings. I wait for it and wait for it and then the author or director or whoever goes and kills someone or makes it a tragedy and I'm so bothered by it, but that is also because they have done such a good job getting me hooked and emotionally involved. For some reason I relished in the idea of being able to try the same thing.

QUOTE (C James @ June 13 2008, 03:11 PM) *
A tragedy indeed, well done, poignant. At first, I thought William would die; the odds are long with Pancreatic cancer. Everything seemed to be setting us up for tragedy, yet he pulled through. Then the mention of gunshot wounds.. Uhoh. And then the "bang, bang" and I knew... This is a double tragedy, but especially for William, he beat such long odds at such cost, only to die.

I agree with Krista, you are EVIL! tongue.gif

Seriously though, well done!

Thanks CJ!! Yeah pancreatic cancer is a tough one, that is partially why I choose it of course. It is also why I struggled a fair bit, the presentation of pancreatic cancer is actually very general and I wasn't quite sure how to go from the general symptoms to that diagnosis. There is that 'E' word again, I guess I really earned it tongue.gif

QUOTE (Graeme @ June 13 2008, 06:07 PM) *
I think everyone has said everything I wanted to say smile.gif A powerful and well-crafted story thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

Your medical training showed, but it didn't obscure the story. I admired the way you had William translate the medical jargon for Paul -- keeping things realistic (the use of the jargon), but explaining things to the readers at the same time.

Well done! specool.gif


Thank you Graeme, that means a lot! Although despite my medical training I still had to do much more research on this than I expected to do. I think I ended up changing the type of cancer twice and how the pancreatic cancer would realistically show up three times. I'm glad the explaination didn't detract from the emotional story I was trying to build. smile.gif

QUOTE (darkfoxprime @ June 13 2008, 10:11 PM) *
This was a hard story to read through for editing, because I kept having to go back a few paragraphs and remind myself to read the words, not the story; I kept getting caught up in it!

I often insist that I dislike reading sad stories, but the good ones always catch my attention and draw me on through the (bitter) conclusion, always hoping for that miracle ending.

Good job!


Sorry you didn't get the miracle ending....well I did kinda give the miracle, but then I took a whole lot more away. I know, I know....the 'E' word again....

Thank you so much for you last minute editing help darkfoxprime!!! The comments you made really helped the flow of the story, so thank you smile.gif

Also I'd like to take this chance to say thank you to Sharon (sat8997) as well for her last minute help, you really made this anthology possible, the both of you!

...and thanks to rec who offered to help as well.

QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ June 13 2008, 11:49 PM) *
Amazing job, Greg!

I always love stories that make me cry, and this one certainly did!

Unfortunately I don't feel able to add much to what has already been said either, but it was an all around awesome story! I'm so glad you finished it in time! Way to go!

hug.gif

-Kevin


Thank you Kevin, hug.gif




Thanks guys for all the wonderful comments, I'm definitely biggrin.gif , especially now that I'm such a devilsmiley.gif , muahahahahaha. j/k

Greg smile.gif
AFriendlyFace
QUOTE (Myk @ June 14 2008, 02:28 AM) *
Wow, I just can't help but smile from the feedback I am getting, it is more than I could have hoped for already, thanks guys wub.gif


Tiff, I can't tell you how much you totally made my week with this post!! I was about to go to bed when I saw you writing it last night and I just had to stay up to see what you would write. When I saw what you said I was so touched. Needless to say I went to bed very happy, so thank you!! wub.gif

Doesn't Tiff just give the most awesome reviews and comments?! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Myk @ June 14 2008, 02:28 AM) *
I told you it was evil!!! I am also one of those guys that hopes for the happy endings. I wait for it and wait for it and then the author or director or whoever goes and kills someone or makes it a tragedy and I'm so bothered by it, but that is also because they have done such a good job getting me hooked and emotionally involved. For some reason I relished in the idea of being able to try the same thing.

That's sort of how I often feel when I write as well, Greg.

QUOTE (Myk @ June 14 2008, 02:28 AM) *
Thanks CJ!! Yeah pancreatic cancer is a tough one, that is partially why I choose it of course. It is also why I struggled a fair bit, the presentation of pancreatic cancer is actually very general and I wasn't quite sure how to go from the general symptoms to that diagnosis. There is that 'E' word again, I guess I really earned it tongue.gif

LOL, you did! Apparently I earned the description of "Fiendly" (as opposed the more common "Fiendish") with my anthology entry...I know this because I was originally described as such in the thread title! cap.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE (Myk @ June 14 2008, 02:28 AM) *
Thank you Graeme, that means a lot! Although despite my medical training I still had to do much more research on this than I expected to do. I think I ended up changing the type of cancer twice and how the pancreatic cancer would realistically show up three times. I'm glad the explaination didn't detract from the emotional story I was trying to build. smile.gif

It definitely didn't. The explanation and medical info was weaved in very well and very seamlessly



-Kevin
Tiger
Wow! That was a sad story. The irony was fantastic though. Myk, you are an awesome short story writer. I wish I had more to say, but it's late and I'm a little tired. All I can say is that the story is superb!
old bob
Sad, very sad story, with its up and down. Amazing how you brought so many thoughts with so few words. Having "the pleasure" to have "frequented" many times hospitals (not as patient) but as manager and helper, I found myself quickly in a well known and very well described atmosphere.
I liked particularly the progression of the story.
The word "escape" can have so many meanings. I acknowledge your choice, but I would have chosen another end !
Work well done ! It remembered me lot about my experiences of hospitals and emergency rooms.
Do you have some experiences of special sections of palliative care (the places to die without pains) ?
Old bob
FrenchCanadian
Okay, first, i gotta say that it's a real sad story, but the way you brought it made it pass all right. It really does fit the theme sooo well. A really well worked text, and really keep writing for the anthology, it seems you simply can't write a bad one,,,,
Myk
QUOTE (Tiger @ June 26 2008, 12:57 AM) *
Wow! That was a sad story. The irony was fantastic though. Myk, you are an awesome short story writer. I wish I had more to say, but it's late and I'm a little tired. All I can say is that the story is superb!

Thanks Tiger wub.gif . I'll have to try my hand at a serial in the near future...

QUOTE (old bob @ June 27 2008, 02:12 PM) *
Sad, very sad story, with its up and down. Amazing how you brought so many thoughts with so few words. Having "the pleasure" to have "frequented" many times hospitals (not as patient) but as manager and helper, I found myself quickly in a well known and very well described atmosphere.
I liked particularly the progression of the story.
The word "escape" can have so many meanings. I acknowledge your choice, but I would have chosen another end !
Work well done ! It remembered me lot about my experiences of hospitals and emergency rooms.
Do you have some experiences of special sections of palliative care (the places to die without pains) ?
Old bob

I don't have any palliative care experience per se. I do have a fair bit of hospital experience through volunteering back home and shadowing here at school. Back home I gave tours to young kids and also volunteered on an infant ward as well as an oncology ward for awhile. Oncology can be terribly sad, personally I think I'd like to end up where there can be some more positive outcomes....who knows though. Thanks for reading and commenting bob!!

QUOTE (FrenchCanadian @ June 28 2008, 07:42 PM) *
Okay, first, i gotta say that it's a real sad story, but the way you brought it made it pass all right. It really does fit the theme sooo well. A really well worked text, and really keep writing for the anthology, it seems you simply can't write a bad one,,,,


Awwww, thanks so much!! biggrin.gif I don't know if I will have anything for the special anthology but I'll try for the fall one. Like I mentioned above I'm thinking about tackling a serial story....although I feel an urge towards fantasy/scifi for that, which is a much different following. Who knows what will happen! tongue.gif

Thanks again you guys, I love the feedback.....btw, negative is welcome too laugh.gif

Greg B)
Tiff
QUOTE (Myk @ June 28 2008, 11:13 PM) *
Awwww, thanks so much!! biggrin.gif I don't know if I will have anything for the special anthology but I'll try for the fall one. Like I mentioned above I'm thinking about tackling a serial story....although I feel an urge towards fantasy/scifi for that, which is a much different following. Who knows what will happen! tongue.gif

Thanks again you guys, I love the feedback.....btw, negative is welcome too laugh.gif

Greg cool.gif

Serials are hard work, but I think you can totally do it. But it seems you might work better under pressure or a looming deadline. And so far, no negative feedback because nothing you've written warrants it.

Ok, you just crushed all my hopes and dreams by stating you might not do the special anthology!!! What a way to bring a girl down, man. That's so harsh. I think for this escape anthology, yours was one of the first ones I read. Since your last one was so good, I had to see what you came up with. And what a freaking delivery!

Methinks you need to wait until the day before the special anthology is due and submit something. I bet it will be fantastic. If can't come up with anything, I can kinda understand since getting an idea is difficult if you force it. But I'll be mad tempted to kung-fu your @ss! biggrin.gif

A disgruntled Tiff
Myk
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 28 2008, 09:40 PM) *
Serials are hard work, but I think you can totally do it. But it seems you might work better under pressure or a looming deadline. And so far, no negative feedback because nothing you've written warrants it.

Ok, you just crushed all my hopes and dreams by stating you might not do the special anthology!!! What a way to bring a girl down, man. That's so harsh. I think for this escape anthology, yours was one of the first ones I read. Since your last one was so good, I had to see what you came up with. And what a freaking delivery!

Methinks you need to wait until the day before the special anthology is due and submit something. I bet it will be fantastic. If can't come up with anything, I can kinda understand since getting an idea is difficult if you force it. But I'll be mad tempted to kung-fu your @ss! biggrin.gif

A disgruntled Tiff


laugh.gif that was totally hilarious worshippy.gif

You are right, I do work best with looming deadlines....plus my last two entries were all last second as well.

Well, since I'm absolutely tickled pink with your comments, I won't take the special anthology off the table...I might give it a try afterall, just for you Tiff wink.gif

....no promisses though
Tiff
QUOTE (Myk @ June 28 2008, 11:44 PM) *
laugh.gif that was totally hilarious worshippy.gif

You are right, I do work best with looming deadlines....plus my last two entries were all last second as well.

Well, since I'm absolutely tickled pink with your comments, I won't take the special anthology off the table...I might give it a try afterall, just for you Tiff wink.gif

....no promisses though

laugh.gif Of course, no promises. I'm mentally mature enough to understand that.

However, let me warn you: I'm Asian. And you know we're innately born with the "kicking ass" ability, right? There is some truth to that stereotype. I can whip out a few moves...some Chinese voodoo. And my Mom is surprisingly talented with knives...

That was random. You get the picture. You have been warned. ph34r.gif
Krista
QUOTE (Myk @ June 28 2008, 11:44 PM) *
laugh.gif that was totally hilarious worshippy.gif

You are right, I do work best with looming deadlines....plus my last two entries were all last second as well.

Well, since I'm absolutely tickled pink with your comments, I won't take the special anthology off the table...I might give it a try afterall, just for you Tiff wink.gif

....no promisses though



Woot!! Go you Tiff! smile.gif
Myk
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 28 2008, 09:52 PM) *
laugh.gif Of course, no promises. I'm mentally mature enough to understand that.

However, let me warn you: I'm Asian. And you know we're innately born with the "kicking ass" ability, right? There is some truth to that stereotype. I can whip out a few moves...some Chinese voodoo. And my Mom is surprisingly talented with knives...

That was random. You get the picture. You have been warned. ph34r.gif


Asians are born with an innate "kicking ass"ability?! ...and you'll unleash your mother on me?! ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

....is voodoo chinese? blink.gif

Well I've become somewhat addicted to Japanese anime, so maybe I'm not quite a helpless white boy tongue.gif

....not that I have any idea what I mean by that laugh.gif

QUOTE
Woot!! Go you Tiff! smile.gif


Hey, what is this?! Two against one? tongue.gif
Tiff
QUOTE (Myk @ June 29 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Asians are born with an innate "kicking ass"ability?! ...and you'll unleash your mother on me?! ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

....is voodoo chinese? blink.gif

Well I've become somewhat addicted to Japanese anime, so maybe I'm not quite a helpless white boy tongue.gif

....not that I have any idea what I mean by that laugh.gif


I have no idea where voodoo stems from. I do know that every culture has its own form of it. I can't tell you what growing up with my mother was like. She's forcing all these freaky things on me, telling me about their healing powers. Lord Almighty! That lady with the strange knife talent.

HAH! Japanese anime. I scoff at that! All those characters have are fancy, spiky hair. You'll be helpess. tongue.gif


QUOTE
Hey, what is this?! Two against one? tongue.gif


It's only two against one because we love you and your writing so much. You should be pleased, really. Give us some time and we can create a whole army. biggrin.gif
Myk
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 28 2008, 10:20 PM) *
I have no idea where voodoo stems from. I do know that every culture has its own form of it. I can't tell you what growing up with my mother was like. She's forcing all these freaky things on me, telling me about their healing powers. Lord Almighty! That lady with the strange knife talent.

HAH! Japanese anime. I scoff at that! All those characters have are fancy, spiky hair. You'll be helpess. tongue.gif

....I like the spiky hair though sad.gif

lol blush1.gif
QUOTE
It's only two against one because we love you and your writing so much. You should be pleased, really. Give us some time and we can create a whole army. biggrin.gif


Awwww.....I'm humbled by the presence of you Tiff and Krista in this tread wub.gif . I'm not sure I could handle a whole army though tongue.gif
Tiff
I like the spiky hair too. They look good, don't they? That's why Chinese movies, or Asian movies in general are enjoyable to watch...that awesome hair. laugh.gif For me at least.

I like to stalk certain authors who are really talented and create good stories; so far it's been corvus and Libby Drew. Now you don't have a serial body of work yet, but I think I'd like to stalk you for the anthologies. At the moment that's your forte. What can I say? I'm in summer school and I have some spare time on my hands.

But I'll try not to get too scary.

No promises though devilsmiley.gif
Myk
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 28 2008, 10:40 PM) *
I like the spiky hair too. They look good, don't they? That's why Chinese movies, or Asian movies in general are enjoyable to watch...that awesome hair. laugh.gif For me at least.

I like to stalk certain authors who are really talented and create good stories; so far it's been corvus and Libby Drew. Now you don't have a serial body of work yet, but I think I'd like to stalk you for the anthologies. At the moment that's your forte. What can I say? I'm in summer school and I have some spare time on my hands.

But I'll try not to get too scary.

No promises though devilsmiley.gif


lol, does that mean I have my first official story stalker? tongue.gif

I know how you feel about boring summer school, I only wish I had extra time this summer but it is like a regular semester for me. Oh well.

Well now that you have put my name in that kind of company I really will have to try and not disappoint you. Goodness though....

you are right though, a serial could be a blunder for me....compared with my short story success so far.
Tiff
QUOTE (Myk @ June 29 2008, 12:48 AM) *
lol, does that mean I have my first official story stalker? tongue.gif

I know how you feel about boring summer school, I only wish I had extra time this summer but it is like a regular semester for me. Oh well.

Well now that you have put my name in that kind of company I really will have to try and not disappoint you. Goodness though....

you are right though, a serial could be a blunder for me....compared with my short story success so far.

Yeah, I'll stalk you more in the forums and whenever you write a story. This is how you know you've made it: when you get your first stalker.

Summer school sucks. It's very condensed. I don't know how you manage a full semester during those summer sessions. Although it could be worse. You could be a big dork like me and take 40 credits freshman year. That was a doozy. wacko.gif

Nah, have some faith in yourself. If you channel your procrastinating energy into a series, you'll have a masterpiece. You need to break down every chapter and pretend each one is its own short story. Wow, can you imagine that? Freaking awesome. Okok, too much pressure now. A good stalker knows when to pull back, laugh.gif

May the force be with you (Don't know where that came from. A random Star Wars reference.)
sat8997
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 28 2008, 11:40 PM) *
Methinks you need to wait until the day before the special anthology is due and submit something.


Or he could try for a few day before the deadline...like normal people. blink.gif


QUOTE (Myk @ June 28 2008, 11:44 PM) *
You are right, I do work best with looming deadlines....plus my last two entries were all last second as well.
Well, since I'm absolutely tickled pink with your comments, I won't take the special anthology off the table...I might give it a try afterall, just for you Tiff wink.gif
....no promisses though


<sigh> Remind me of the deadline again so I can plan to be awake at midnight...just in case. rolleyes.gif
Tiff
QUOTE (sat8997 @ June 29 2008, 09:57 AM) *
Or he could try for a few day before the deadline...like normal people. blink.gif

...

<sigh> Remind me of the deadline again so I can plan to be awake at midnight...just in case. rolleyes.gif

Greg is not a normal procrastinator. He's a super procrastinator!

And as tough as it may be, he manages a great story in a span of a few hours. I know, he's a superfreak. biggrin.gif

Here's to hoping he'll come up with something by July 14...or a few days earlier so poor editors aren't scrambling. laugh.gif
old bob
QUOTE (Myk @ June 29 2008, 05:13 AM) *
I don't have any palliative care experience per se. I do have a fair bit of hospital experience through volunteering back home and shadowing here at school. Back home I gave tours to young kids and also volunteered on an infant ward as well as an oncology ward for awhile. Oncology can be terribly sad, personally I think I'd like to end up where there can be some more positive outcomes....who knows though. Thanks for reading and commenting bob!!
Greg cool.gif

Just a word about "palliative care", for those who care biggrin.gif .
Palliative care (from Latin palliare, to cloak) is any form of medical care or treatment that concentrates on reducing the severity of disease symptoms, rather than halting or delaying progression of the disease itself or providing a cure. The goal is to prevent and relieve suffering and to improve quality of life for people facing serious, complex illness, and particularly for people in "terminal" state.
If you want to know more, see palliative care
The problem of the medical staff is that they are not prepared to face the death of patients they have to cure. The first who dealed with this problem was Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, M.D. (July 8, 1926 – August 24, 2004), a Swiss-born psychiatrist and the author of the groundbreaking book "On Death and Dying".
If you want to know more, see Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
A special point : The key to effective palliative care is to provide a safe way for the individual to address their physical and psychological distress, that is to say their total suffering. The palliative care teams have become very skillful in prescribing drugs for physical symptoms, and have been instrumental in showing how drugs such as morphine can be used safely while maintaining a patient's full faculties and function. This practice is new, and is an improvement from the old attitude of medics about drugs.
Sorry to have brought such a serious subject, but it is one of my passions.
Old bob








Myk
QUOTE (Tiff @ June 28 2008, 11:15 PM) *
Yeah, I'll stalk you more in the forums and whenever you write a story. This is how you know you've made it: when you get your first stalker.

YAY!!! I've made it *pumps fist into the air* laugh.gif
QUOTE
Summer school sucks. It's very condensed. I don't know how you manage a full semester during those summer sessions. Although it could be worse. You could be a big dork like me and take 40 credits freshman year. That was a doozy. wacko.gif

No kidding it sucks. Actually back home I liked summer sessions because campus was actually nice and quiet. Here wr are on trimesters so it is just a normal semester. 40 credits?! crazzzzzy girl. I remember 2nd year fall semester I had 12 hours of lecture and 13 hours of lab.....stupid lab! That was before the really long labs though tongue.gif
QUOTE
Nah, have some faith in yourself. If you channel your procrastinating energy into a series, you'll have a masterpiece. You need to break down every chapter and pretend each one is its own short story. Wow, can you imagine that? Freaking awesome. Okok, too much pressure now. A good stalker knows when to pull back, laugh.gif

May the force be with you (Don't know where that came from. A random Star Wars reference.)

laugh.gif too funny! I don't know if I have the stamina for a series, especially the way I write tongue.gif

QUOTE (sat8997 @ June 29 2008, 07:57 AM) *
Or he could try for a few day before the deadline...like normal people. blink.gif

I thought deadline was latin for 'start' *cackles and runs away*
QUOTE
<sigh> Remind me of the deadline again so I can plan to be awake at midnight...just in case. rolleyes.gif

hahaha, July 14th....but if I do this one, I'll try and give you more than a few hours this time. I wuv you Sharon wub.gif

QUOTE (Tiff @ June 29 2008, 08:53 AM) *
Greg is not a normal procrastinator. He's a super procrastinator!

And as tough as it may be, he manages a great story in a span of a few hours. I know, he's a superfreak. biggrin.gif

Here's to hoping he'll come up with something by July 14...or a few days earlier so poor editors aren't scrambling. laugh.gif


Oh yeah he's a superfreak, superfreak, he's superfreaky...... tongue.gif

I like watching the editors scramble wink.gif....seriously though they have saved my ass many times and I owe them whatever bits of my soul I still have left

hug.gifs for all

Greg biggrin.gif
Myk
QUOTE (old bob @ June 29 2008, 10:01 AM) *
Just a word about "palliative care", for those who care biggrin.gif .
Palliative care (from Latin palliare, to cloak) is any form of medical care or treatment that concentrates on reducing the severity of disease symptoms, rather than halting or delaying progression of the disease itself or providing a cure. The goal is to prevent and relieve suffering and to improve quality of life for people facing serious, complex illness, and particularly for people in "terminal" state.
If you want to know more, see palliative care
The problem of the medical staff is that they are not prepared to face the death of patients they have to cure. The first who dealed with this problem was Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, M.D. (July 8, 1926 – August 24, 2004), a Swiss-born psychiatrist and the author of the groundbreaking book "On Death and Dying".
If you want to know more, see Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
A special point : The key to effective palliative care is to provide a safe way for the individual to address their physical and psychological distress, that is to say their total suffering. The palliative care teams have become very skillful in prescribing drugs for physical symptoms, and have been instrumental in showing how drugs such as morphine can be used safely while maintaining a patient's full faculties and function. This practice is new, and is an improvement from the old attitude of medics about drugs.
Sorry to have brought such a serious subject, but it is one of my passions.
Old bob


Don't be sorry bob! This has application to the story and is something important to talk about from time to time.

Most students entering the medical profession have thoughts (or say things) like:

'I want to save lives'
'I want to cure diseases'

Whereas these are great thoughts it completely leaves out a huge portion of medine practically. Saving lives does happen, but depending on your specialty that can be daily or almost never just because it isn't always life or death situations. Curing diseases is more a researchers thing, or should I say a drug company thing. Actual cures are few and far between, and even such great things like insulin are actually not cures per se. Often drug companies prefer therapy/supportive drugs over cures....guess which makes more money. But that is off topic....

A great deal of the time there is nothing we can actually do for some people medically and at that point our role changes to improoving their quality of life. This means reducing pain and managing symptoms. This is a big part of medicine, and not the glamourous one most people envision before entering medicine, but all the more important. In this way medicine is moe about improoving lives by degrees, cause easing someone's pain can mean a lot to them, even if you arn't sending them home healthy.

I could can't possibly stress the importance of palliative care enough, it just isn't the thing want to do every day, I'm not strong enough for that. Plus I'm one of those misguided few who still want to cure something.....

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