TalonRider
August 17 2008, 07:20 PM
I just had this discussion with one of the authors I work with and have given him my answer to the question. I'm curious to know what others think.
I used to be blonde
I use to be blonde
are both correct these days? I ask because I have seen some authors use it.
Edited to change the title.
AFriendlyFace
August 17 2008, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (TalonRider @ August 17 2008, 07:20 PM)

I just had this discussion with one of the authors I work with and have given him my answer to the question. I'm curious to know what others think.
I used to be blonde
I use to be blonde
are both correct these days? I ask because I have seen some authors use it.
No, personally speaking as far as I'm concerned "used to" is the acceptable form.
However, again personally speaking - as someone who himself used to be blond - I would only say it colloquially. So I might use 'used to' (not 'use to') in my dialogue or something(...or maybe in Aaron's narration in BMAD/WAS since the whole story is pretty informal), but for more formal writing I would probably shy away from the phrase altogether.
Just my preference though

Kevin
Benji
August 17 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (AFriendlyFace @ August 17 2008, 08:43 PM)

No, personally speaking as far as I'm concerned "used to" is the acceptable form.
However, again personally speaking - as someone who himself used to be blond - I would only say it colloquially. So I might use 'used to' (not 'use to') in my dialogue or something(...or maybe in Aaron's narration in BMAD/WAS since the whole story is pretty informal), but for more formal writing I would probably shy away from the phrase altogether.
Just my preference though
Kevin

.................I think 'used to' is correct!! I do however reserve judgement due to an overabundance of Blonde jokes at my disposal!!
Tiger
August 17 2008, 07:59 PM
I found a
link that says:
QUOTE
We use 'used to' for something that happened regularly in the past but no longer happens.
- I used to smoke a packet a day. but I stopped two years ago.
- Ben used to travel a lot in his job but now, since his promotion, he doesn't.
- I used to drive to work but now I take the bus.
steph291
August 17 2008, 08:20 PM
I put "use to" and "suppose to" on the same level as "ain't" or "sorta"
I basically think of the 'd' as a swallowed letter, so it sounds correct, but in the written word, it's never correct.
AFriendlyFace
August 17 2008, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (steph291 @ August 17 2008, 08:20 PM)

I put "use to" and "suppose to" on the same level as "ain't" or "sorta"
I basically think of the 'd' as a swallowed letter, so it sounds correct, but in the written word, it's never correct.
Right, that's how I see it too.
sat8997
August 17 2008, 09:06 PM
The general rule is when there is did or didn't in the sentence, the correct form is use to (without d) when there is no did or didn't in the sentence, the correct form is used to (with d).
steph291
August 17 2008, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (sat8997 @ August 17 2008, 07:06 PM)

The general rule is when there is did or didn't in the sentence, the correct form is use to (without d) when there is no did or didn't in the sentence, the correct form is used to (with d).
interesting, Sharon! can you give us a full sentence where it's correct without the 'd'?
sat8997
August 17 2008, 10:30 PM
Ask and you shall receive.
- Did you use to go out with my sister?
- Did they use to own the company?
- Didn't we use to go to the same school?
MikeL
August 17 2008, 10:58 PM
I think used is the correct choice for your sentence "I used to be blonde" The clear implication of the statement is that something occurred in the past. Use is present tense.
Sharon is also correct about the word use with did or didn't. Did or didn't satisfies the past tense requirement; used would be redundant.
All the above applies to written communication. If you are writing dialog, your characters are likely to run words together resulting in something like "useta" or "didn'useta".
BeaStKid
August 18 2008, 02:40 AM
used it is...
TalonRider
August 18 2008, 11:44 AM
This
link was sent to me via email. I've also added the link to the pinned references in this section.
Thanks for sending it to me John.
sat8997
August 18 2008, 03:50 PM
Seems that John and I have the same link bookmarked.
Bondwriter
August 21 2008, 11:42 AM
used to, to indicate an habit in the past. Equivalent to the French imparfait in this regard (though the imparfait is used for other purposes, e.g. replacing the past continuous: "We were having wild sex when the telephone rang."
In a dialog, use to might translate the speaker's assimilation of the "d" sound" with the following "t" sound. If you hear it pronounced this way, then it's fine.
Dion
August 22 2008, 02:39 AM
It may also have something to do with locale. I know my late English teacher grandmother would pitch a fit every time one of her students wrote 'use to' instead of 'used to'. She would tell them it was alright to drop the 'd' when speaking but not when writing.
She would then go on to say 'school is an institute of learning, not s-c-o-o-l'. She was a hard-nosed teacher but her pupils loved her.
David McLeod
December 10 2008, 08:25 AM
Use, used, using: transitive verb meaning to employ, put into service, expend, consume, treat. In these senses, “use” requires an object. Use, used, using: intransitive verb meaning to be accustomed or customarily found, must be used with an infinitive and only to express the past. “We used to go to town more often.” Note that the “to” belongs with “go,” and not with “used.” The forum discussion may not be so much about “used + to” or “use + to” but about “used + infinitive” or “use + infinitive.”I used to be blonde because I used peroxide. (Now my hair is falling out.)I do not like “use + infinitive” in sentences such as, “Did you not use to go to school?”On the other hand, “Did you not used to go to school?” is worse, and clearly wrong. I believe, and limited research seems to confirm, that “use + infinitive” is becoming archaic.Lacking the courage of my convictions, I would write, “Didn’t you once go to school?”That, boys and girls, is the wonder of the English language: it has more words than perhaps any other language extant. There's always a work-around.If you are not familiar with Professor Elliot Engel’s “A Light History of the English Language,” I recommend it. This lecture is available on audio disk…I found it easy to convince the local public library to buy a copy. (His web site is www.authorsink.com .)
Mark Arbour
December 10 2008, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (sat8997 @ August 17 2008, 09:30 PM)

Ask and you shall receive.
- Did you use to go out with my sister?
- Did they use to own the company?
- Didn't we use to go to the same school?
There's a reason why you are the BEST editor. I used to think that, now I know it is true.
BeeJay
December 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Instead of "Didn't you use to go out with my sister?", which sounds stilted and almost archaic to my ears, I would recommend
"You used to go out with my sister, didn't you?"
This is another workaround in English, and is analogous to other languages that have idioms and particles such as "n'est-ce pas?", "nicht wahr?" and "¿verdad?"
MikeL
December 24 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (BeeJay @ December 24 2008, 09:57 AM)

Instead of "Didn't you use to go out with my sister?", which sounds stilted and almost archaic to my ears, I would recommend
"You used to go out with my sister, didn't you?"
Canadians can go you one better with, "You used to go out with my sister, eh?" Essentially, you can ask any question by adding "eh" to a statement.
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