shadowgod
January 16 2007, 09:26 PM
QUOTE (C James @ January 16 2007, 06:23 PM)

I think it's great that you used an actual location!
And Jack, aren't the 2000's a blur in your mind, too?
BTW, this is the 100th post in this thread! Congratulations on reaching the Centennial mark!

All apologies for hijacking this thread all-be-it momentarily...
Does anyone find it suspicious that a lurker

has made the centennial post on two different threads within the span of seven days?

Steve
We now return to this thread in progress...
york366
January 16 2007, 09:38 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ January 16 2007, 06:11 PM)

There is only one high school in that area, that'd be Crestwood. Fairview is an elementary school. Same for Rice.
The story is in the present...at least in this decade. I'm still too young to remember each decade very well beyond the 90s (the 80s are a blur in my mind...

)
I did mention computer, internet, DVD, and cellphone.

haha yeah i guess so...
Bondwriter
February 4 2007, 01:46 AM
Sneak preview...
Chapter 28
Ben led me into the house where he greeted a man who seems to be in his mid-30s.
"Steph, meet François, my oldest cousin." said Ben.
"What the hell..." I said as a memory flashback of a sex shop that specializes in bondage at the corner of Ste. Catherine and St. Laurent (the sex district of downtown Montreal). On the store's window, there was an ad with a photo of a man on it. He looks so similar to him...
"Wait, aren't you the guy who owns..." and he interrupted me.
"Yea, yea, yea, I know I know...I'm the guy who owns ze bondage store." he said with a thick French accent, smiling and offered his hand to shake.
I blushed a little since he seemed perfectly OK with it; I was not, or at least not completely. I had long stopped wondering about the whys of my fantasies, but still... I had never experimented with tying someone up, or being tied up, but there was some appeal to it.
"Hey, zat's OK whezer you like bondage or not. Actually, I also use the word "tie-up games", or even ze French "ligotage" that doesn't bear all ze connotations of 'bondage'. Plus we are quite a few guys who like this strange fantasy without having the least taste for either inflicting or receiving pain. You guys want to play together?"
I looked at Ben. Apparently he didn't mind. His cousin winked at him. There had been something sometimes in the past, something that his cousin had been a witness of and that told him Benoît wouldn't mind. (...)
Jack Frost
February 4 2007, 02:15 AM

How nice of you to write such a misleading "sneak preview" (I even doubt I will write up to Chapter 28).
Bondwriter
February 4 2007, 02:18 AM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ February 4 2007, 08:15 AM)


How nice of you to write such a misleading future chapter (I even doubt I will write up to Chapter 28).

As an old man once told me:
"Build your own legend..."
Jack Frost
February 4 2007, 02:25 AM
But the little girl says you can always keep on dreaming whatever you wish to be true...in your mind.
Bondwriter
February 4 2007, 02:41 AM
Dream On is one of my favorite Aerosmith songs.
Jack Frost
February 4 2007, 11:50 PM
Drewbie
February 5 2007, 03:56 PM
Wonder if Krist suspects anything
Seen a bear in back woods of in the house we live in now, when dad was building the fence 4 yrs ago, wouldn't want to be right next to it.
Jack Frost
February 5 2007, 04:29 PM
Black bears are shy and curious animal and they avoid humans. It's very rare for them to get aggressive towards to humans. That bear in the story was just curious at the car.

I saw a bear once when I was a boy...my mum took me to show it and we were like 15 feet away from it with the neighbors. That's the only time I saw a wild bear. Other few times I saw them...they were roadkills.

A question for everyone. I couldn't help feeling I made this chapter as a "filler" and it seems to be "plain". Is it me or anyelse feels like that?
C James
February 5 2007, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ February 5 2007, 02:29 PM)

Black bears are shy and curious animal and they avoid humans. It's very rare for them to get aggressive towards to humans. That bear in the story was just curious at the car.

I saw a bear once when I was a boy...my mum took me to show it and we were like 15 feet away from it with the neighbors. That's the only time I saw a wild bear. Other few times I saw them...they were roadkills.

A question for everyone. I couldn't help feeling I made this chapter as a "filler" and it seems to be "plain". Is it me or anyelse feels like that?
I get a lot of black bear around here. The do some damage as they like to scratch on wood and seem to like one corner of my house. I don't mind them, but if they get a little too incautious I fire a shot or two in their general direction to run them off (no, I do not aim for them, just near them).
BTW, if you leave food in your car, or even things that smell like food (such as a hamburger wrapper), they WILL break in.
I felt the chapter was good character development, especially for Krist. The Icelandic was a very nice touch! How did you do that?
I too wonder if Krist suspects anything?
I'm also wondering when the other shoe will drop (that sound in the Bathroom).
Great chapter!!
Drewbie
February 5 2007, 07:33 PM
It was a black bear, It was a year were there was no food in the Blue Ridge mountains in Virginia,it then traveled to where we live.
I like the chappie Jack, wasn't boring
Jack Frost
February 5 2007, 07:59 PM
How I do that with Icelandic? I learnt some couple years ago and I still review a little once every while to refresh my mind. So I can make and understand some phrases without much problem. I thought it would be fun to put a "rare" language with only 300,000 speakers in the story.

Since Alex is Vietnamese so it's possible I might put some Vietnamese as well. My boyfriend is Vietnamese afterall and always talks to his parents in Vietnamese so I would have no clue what they're talking about.
sat8997
February 5 2007, 08:30 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ February 5 2007, 07:59 PM)

How I do that with Icelandic? I learnt some couple years ago and I still review a little once every while to refresh my mind. So I can make and understand some phrases without much problem. I thought it would be fun to put a "rare" language with only 300,000 speakers in the story.

Since Alex is Vietnamese so it's possible
I might put some Vietnamese as well. My boyfriend is Vietnamese afterall and always talks to his parents in Vietnamese so I would have no clue what they're talking about.


My dictionary is having heart palpitations.
Sharon
Jack Frost
February 5 2007, 10:51 PM
Heart palpitations?
Did you realize I had to get a dictionary to find out what that means?
sat8997
February 5 2007, 10:59 PM
Maybe I should have written it in French.
Sharon
Jack Frost
February 6 2007, 12:40 AM
LOL I don't even know how to say it in French.
Bondwriter
February 6 2007, 01:58 AM
This is a chapter with lots of making out. They should stop using public restrooms before they get caught with their pants down! There are lots of threads that are left hanging, and waiting to be pulled in further chapters. It seems (but maybe I'm wrong) we're halfway through, or something's going to start.
As for the ursine situation, I know there were some in Northern Minnesota but never saw one. I've got friends who were woken up by one as they were camping in Alaska. They were quite scared. I've got lots of cats outside, living wild (they're not wildcats though). Less scary.
Altimexis
February 6 2007, 08:13 PM
My one criticism of this chapter is the make-out scene in Krist's bathroom. That was just too close for comfort. I can certainly imagine Jake making out with Ben after he tries to comfort him, but dicks whipping out and all that action?

Why would Ben put a stop to it in the tree house, only to get it on with his boyfriend in a place where they would likely be caught?

To me it just doesn't quite seem real. Othere than that, it was a great read, as always.
Jack Frost
February 6 2007, 09:20 PM
If I can remember right, it was Steph who stopped it in the treehouse.
Jake making out with Ben? Eh? Again...didn't I remember it was Steph?
Conner
February 7 2007, 09:32 PM
Just finished catching up with your story, Jack. I'm really enjoying it
I enjoyed reading this thread as well. Here's what I gleaned: you're an American, studying French in Montreal with (maybe) the hope of becoming a French teacher, you have a Vietnamese bf (in Montreal?) and some dude called Francois who edits your French and betareads, and you shoot sick goats.

No one can say you're uninteresting.
I hope you have something nasty planned for Fran.
The French certainly know how to turn the air blue!!
A riddle: What do you get when you cross Jack Frost with Dracula?
Conner
Jack Frost
February 8 2007, 03:54 AM
QUOTE (Conner @ February 7 2007, 09:32 PM)

Just finished catching up with your story, Jack. I'm really enjoying it
I enjoyed reading this thread as well. Here's what I gleaned: you're an American, studying French in Montreal with (maybe) the hope of becoming a French teacher, you have a Vietnamese bf (in Montreal?) and some dude called Francois who edits your French and betareads, and you shoot sick goats.

No one can say you're uninteresting.
I hope you have something nasty planned for Fran.
The French certainly know how to turn the air blue!!
A riddle: What do you get when you cross Jack Frost with Dracula?
Conner
Yes, you got it all right except François doesn't do very much correcting my French in the story...usually I get most of them flawless.
And what's the riddle? I hate riddles...I never can figure them out.
Bondwriter
February 8 2007, 07:46 AM
QUOTE (Conner @ February 8 2007, 03:32 AM)

I hope you have something nasty planned for Fran.
The French certainly know how to turn the air blue!!

They also are pretty fond of barbecued caprine animals, if you really want to know.

So, Jack revealed my first name, because my nick might have sounded stupid, or bring to life fantasies he's struggled with and repressed...

Or maybe he's just an open sincere guy? For the French Canadian parts, I tend to trust him in using the colorful expressions of our Belle Province's cousins. And let's face it: he's not too bad with French.
Conner
February 8 2007, 04:25 PM
QUOTE (Bondwriter @ February 8 2007, 07:46 AM)

They also are pretty fond of barbecued caprine animals, if you really want to know.

So, Jack revealed my first name, because my nick might have sounded stupid, or bring to life fantasies he's struggled with and repressed...

Or maybe he's just an open sincere guy? For the French Canadian parts, I tend to trust him in using the colorful expressions of our Belle Province's cousins. And let's face it: he's not too bad with French.
Listen up, Frenchie!

There'll be no goat bar-b-que going on here at GA!!!

I hope you realize that Myr is very protective of his moderators.
Yes, Jack is doing extremely well with the French content of his story. I should add that a lot of the French he uses is not taught in his uni studies...at least that would be my guess.
Riddle answer:
frostbite
Jack Frost
February 8 2007, 06:15 PM
QUOTE (Conner @ February 8 2007, 04:25 PM)

There'll be no goat bar-b-que going on here at GA!!!

I hope you realize that Myr is very protective of his moderators.

Like that will stop me.

QUOTE
Riddle answer: frostbite
Or frostnip....depends how nice I am.
Bondwriter
February 14 2007, 02:23 PM
QUOTE (Jack Heart of Ice replied to)
QUOTE (Goat who paternally asked)
Humph ... Only in the sense that all authors feel paternal towards their characters... (How do you feel about Steph or Ben, Jack?)
Nothing much really...I'm planning to kill them off anyway close to the end of the story.
Here is an exchange between CJames and Jack. A little feud has been going on for quite some time now, since Jack objects to being sold in slavery by CJames, raising obscure legal points (some convention of Human Rights...)
How would you feel if such a dreadful thing happened to Steph and Ben, faithful readers of Moving On? Is an author allowed to exert a right of life and death over such moving characters? It's time you stand for what you think is right, and let Jack know you want a bright future for Steph and Ben!
Jack Frost
February 15 2007, 06:14 AM
QUOTE (All Bonded Up With Black Leather @ February 14 2007, 02:23 PM)

Nothing much really...I'm planning to kill them off anyway close to the end of the story.
Here is an exchange between CJames and Jack. A little feud has been going on for quite some time now, since Jack objects to being sold in slavery by CJames, raising obscure legal points (some convention of Human Rights...)
How would you feel if such a dreadful thing happened to Steph and Ben, faithful readers of Moving On? Is an author allowed to exert a right of life and death over such moving characters? It's time you stand for what you think is right, and let Jack know you want a bright future for Steph and Ben!
To be clearer...I refuse to say that would happen, but just saying anything could happen in the story. Honestly, I don't have an ending all planned up yet...just running the story on and see how it ends. I intend to make this story somewhat realistic (just like the setting and some events that really happened in real life...), and death is just part of real life.
I could say I'm not a big fan of seeing characters dying. So you could say this could be a small chance instead of a big one.
Bondwriter
February 15 2007, 12:55 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ February 15 2007, 12:14 PM)

I could say I'm not a big fan of seeing characters dying. So you could say this could be a small chance instead of a big one.
If you haven't plotted it yet, that would be an author's way of chickening out to find a proper conclusion. Come on Jack, I was only kidding with the heart of ice thing! I know it's not like you to pull such a mean one on your readers! (And I'm not too much into leather... Read my story to get rid of easy misconceptions.)
Jack Frost
February 15 2007, 01:15 PM
Chickening out...call whatever you want. I have many possiblities to end it.
Max03
February 18 2007, 11:37 AM
Hi Jack and everyone else
I just read your entire story Jack and I think it is amazing ... You are a wonderfull writer, you describe the surroundings and the feelings of the people so well. I don't read the story but I live the story. I really like the french parts in the story. French is my second languages and it is nice to see both languages, English and French, combined in one story. The storyline is very good and I just love Ben, don't ask me why but I love that boy. Also I think Ben's little brother is a very good character in the story, the younger brother who looks up to his older brother.
I found your story just recently by accident. I read on another forum someone who said
QUOTE
Don't be too nice to Jack Frost.. he's pretty cold-hearted, ya know...
So I wanted to check it for myself so I read his story and I don't see a cold-hearted person. I see a warm-loving person through the characters is the story

. Keep up the good work Jack
Sorry for my bad english, it is my third languages
Max
Jack Frost
February 18 2007, 12:08 PM
ACK! Someone called me a warm-hearted person.

But thanks a lot for your comment. I love them.
Bondwriter
February 18 2007, 01:25 PM
I agree with a lot of what you say, Max. I'm sure deep inside Jack is a warm, good-hearted loving person. And it's interesting to know that saying bad things about someone in a forum will get him new readers. No bad publicity, only publicity, apparently.
Jack Frost
February 20 2007, 09:58 PM
E-mailed Chapter 8 to Sharon.
It seems she's sleeping now since I don't see her on MSN. Must be my shoo-fly pie.
Bondwriter
February 21 2007, 02:25 AM
I hope Ben and Steph find a location more proper to make out than a public bathroom this time, if they make out.
Jack Frost
February 21 2007, 02:54 AM
QUOTE (Bondwriter @ February 21 2007, 02:25 AM)

I hope Ben and Steph find a location more proper to make out than a public bathroom this time, if they make out.
You mean private? Public is outside the house...
Bondwriter
February 21 2007, 02:57 AM
Yes, I do. Having fun in public restrooms means they should end up getting in trouble. What if someone is already there or if they get caught?
sat8997
February 21 2007, 12:59 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ February 20 2007, 09:58 PM)

E-mailed Chapter 8 to Sharon.
It seems she's sleeping now since I don't see her on MSN. Must be my shoo-fly pie.

You've got mail.
And actually, for once, I was sleeping. Quite a change from my usual midnight edits. I'm starting to think Jack's a vampire as I usually only talk to him in the middle of the night.
Sharon
Bondwriter
February 21 2007, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (sat8997 @ February 21 2007, 06:59 PM)

I'm starting to think Jack's a vampire as I usually only talk to him in the middle of the night.
Sharon
OK, so I was not the only one having the impression there was something fishy. Stake, anyone?
AND WHEN IS THE NEW CHAPTER GOING TO BE POSTED?
Jack Frost
February 21 2007, 02:54 PM
Drewbie
February 21 2007, 04:17 PM
For a second, I though Krist really did see em in the can, I really like Krist mom, wonder if that Step later on will confess to her before telling his other friends, hugs Ben.
C James
February 21 2007, 07:34 PM
WARNING! Spoilers below: Go read chapter 8 first!~
That opening sequence was GREAT! And now I know why you gave both the dog and one of Steph's friends the same name!
Very convincing sequence, BTW!
My hunch is that Krist knows, and was trying to show he's supportive (via including Ben, and his statements to Steph).
I have a feeling that things are coming to a head; how will Steph react if Ben is outed? And how will Steph's mother react if he is outed?
Now, too, we know who was in the bathroom. Very well done! I was expecting a far less pleasant reaction from whomever it was, unless of course Steph's reaction triggers trouble there...
Good one, Jack!!!
And BTW, I agree with Sharon: Vampire...
sat8997
February 21 2007, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (C James @ February 21 2007, 07:34 PM)

That opening sequence was GREAT! And now I know why you gave both the dog and one of Steph's friends the same name!
Very convincing sequence, BTW!

Oh I am so glad you commented on this. I loved this part. It had me laughing out loud. Woof
Sharon
Jack Frost
February 21 2007, 08:32 PM
That's not my reason why I gave the dog and friend same name. It's because I actually have a dog named Jake back in Pennsylvania.

Jake's the black one...other one is Dillion, his brother. I miss them.

Jake does really love getting his belly rubbed.
Bondwriter
February 22 2007, 02:15 AM
Yes, the dream sequence is great. It fooled me completely. Nice develoments in this chapter. Glad they go back to the bedroom for having fun. Now the concern is about Mathieu's diet. What will happen if they keep locking themselves in and leaving the kid to plunder the cookies from the kitchen?
I don't know if it's really relevant to this thread, but it's great to see Sharon's and Jack's great work on the story.
Conner
February 22 2007, 03:18 AM
I'm still loving the story, Jack, but I'm going to climb on my soapbox and make a speech. It's relevant to this chapter so you can't delete it.
First it was the cliffhanger endings and now its dream sequences disguised as part of the story. Readers don't want these shameless practices any longer!!!

They play havoc with our hearts and minds.

It's particularly upsetting to see you young authors developing bad habits so early in the game.
Is anyone still reading???
Jack Frost
February 22 2007, 01:56 PM
No, I wasn't still reading...sorry...
I was just wondering why you're not longer a goat. I guess CJ is alone now.

Oh yea, thanks everyone.
Conner
February 22 2007, 02:17 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ February 22 2007, 01:56 PM)

I was just wondering why you're not longer a goat. I guess CJ is alone now.

What do you mean I'm no longer a goat? Of course I am.
Seeing that you brought it up

....
Who is my avatar and what is the connection between my avatar and the movie "Children of Dune".
So there!!!

I'm so cool!
Conner (still a goat)
Bondwriter
March 15 2007, 04:18 PM
So what's going on for Steph and Ben? Any news about them coming out to their hockey friends? Is poor Mathieu still forced to glut on starch and fat because the boys leave him on his own, locked inside Ben's room?
The readers want to know! They have a right to!
Jack Frost
March 16 2007, 03:00 PM
Mathieu and the rest of the gang will be pigging out on pizza.
That's all the hint I will be giving.
C James
March 16 2007, 04:13 PM
QUOTE (Jack Frost @ March 16 2007, 01:00 PM)

Mathieu and the rest of the gang will be pigging out on pizza.
That's all the hint I will be giving.
Your characters will be eating Pizza? That's shocking! Horrendous! Absolutely abominable!
How could you?
Signed;
CJ, Forum lurker and resident hypocrite.
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